From: not@telling.you.invalid   
      
   Markus Robert Kessler  wrote:   
   > On Mon, 12 Jan 2026 12:45:29 +0000 Daniel James wrote:   
   >> On 12/01/2026 06:36, Markus Robert Kessler wrote:   
   >>> Well, these are the BUILD dependencies - are there RUNTIME requirements   
   >>> also?   
   >>   
   >> Generally (but I don't promise that it always works) if you have the dev   
   >>   package installed in order to meet the build requirements you not need   
   >> anything more at runtime.   
   >>   
   >> There are non-dev packages that meet *only* the runtime requirements for   
   >> people who don't need to meet the build requirements, but if you have   
   >> the dev packages you don't need those as well.   
   >   
   > B.t.w.,   
   >   
   > how do you install all the files retrieved from compiling the tarball from   
   > scratch, if you want to avoid building a deb or rpm?   
   >   
   > Meaning, do you let "make install" write directly to the filesystem, or do   
   > you pack all that files in one tar.gz and then use "alien" to transform it   
   > into a deb or rpm?   
      
   If you want to install to the system then of course "make install",   
   if you want to make a package or just a tar file that can be   
   unpacked to "/" on similar systems, DESTDIR is useful:   
      
    sudo make DESTDIR=/tmp/mailutils install-strip   
      
   That installs everything into equivalent directories under   
   /tmp/mailutils as when you do a "make install", with debugging info   
   stripped to avoid wasting space. You should still run it as root so   
   that the file permissions are set correctly. Then you can make a   
   package or tar archive from the contents of that directory for   
   installing to other systems running the same distro.   
      
   Note occasionally programs won't support "DESTDIR" and will then   
   install to "/" anyway, and also some won't understand   
   "install-strip" so you must use "install" instead, then run "strip"   
   on the binaries manually. But Mailutils supports both, as, it   
   seems, do all GNU projects.   
      
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