From: thewises@enter.net   
      
   > I have trashed floppies on my Model I and 4P when turning on or off the   
   > computer with a floppy in drive 0. Usually, it's when I turn it off.  I do   
   > the same as Knut, turn on computer and insert disk during the initial seek   
   > period.  If that works for you Doug, then it might be your best bet.   
   >   
   > When turning off my Model I especially, if a floppy is in the drive, I   
   > hear a distinct "clunk" as though the heads load or unload.   
      
   Ok, maybe this does only happen on some computers. The only computer I've   
   really used that didn't have a hard disk was a Commodore, and they don't use   
   boot disks(except the C128). And anyway, one poster said that intelligent   
   drives(such as Commodore drives) don't have this problem.   
      
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