From: trash80@theville.vintagecomputing.net.remove-10rw-this   
      
     To: Bob Campbell   
     Re: Re: Is there any point to Ira's site ???   
     By: Bob Campbell to comp.sys.tandy on Tue Jan 29 2008 21:37:15   
      
    > I certainly don't see much point to it any longer.   You can't download   
    > 80 Micro magazines any longer, as far as I could see the last time I   
    > checked.   The software downloads are absurdly complicated.   One file   
    > at a time!?!?!   The whole thing should be available as a single big ZIP   
    > file, so others can preserve it as well.   
    >   
    > Fortunately for me, I grabbed the entire contents of his site a few   
    > years ago, using a "site grabber" utility.    Then I burned it to CDs.   
    > I also downloaded all of the 80 Micro PDFs he had available, but I have   
    > a complete collection of the real things anyways.   
    >   
    > I wouldn't send him a piece of bread if he was starving.   He is doing   
    > nothing for the TRS-80 community, except for "see all the cool stuff I   
    > have that you don't - and I won't share it with you because I'm a jerk!"   
      
   You've got it all wrong. It is because of "jerks" like you that Ira had to   
   change his site to a single download at a time. Why? Because bandwidth cost   
   money. Real money that he wasn't getting in donations despite the fact that   
   some people did donate.   
      
   Ira spent vasts amount of time and money making all the software, manuals, and   
   magazines that people sent him available to the public for free. And you with   
   your "site grabber" took advantage of him and probably cost him money too.   
      
   Now, since you have an archive if his whole site why don't you host it   
   somewhere for all to download (somewhere permanent and well laid out I might   
   add). In other words, put up or shut up.   
      
   As for Ira himself, he mailed TRS-DOS disks to me when I had none, and some   
   comms software on disk on another occassion. He mailed these items to me   
   without any upfront payment for his costs (postage, materials) and simply said   
   asked me to donate what I feel is appropriate when I get the disks.   
      
   I was watching one of the first few episodes of the TV show Jericho where the   
   town had a BBQ using the last remaining food in the local grocery store (as   
   there was no power). When most of the town folk had finished eating someone   
   remarked to the store owner (this is a small town, small store) that the BBQ   
   had gone well and everyone had enjoyed themselves.  The store owner agreed but   
   commented that not one person had thank her. This whole thread reminds me of   
   that scene. Can you figure out which character you are?   
      
   Regards,   
   Doug   
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