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   FRED to Knut Roll-Lund   
   Re: Oh Goody Goody!!   
   31 Mar 08 07:08:15   
   
   From: no@hotmail.com   
      
   No Body cares   
      
      
   "Knut Roll-Lund"  wrote in message   
   news:ofednZ1EG85IGXLaRVnzvQA@telenor.com...   
   > Hi   
   >   
   > You don't understand why the selling of DVD's at good price referring to   
   > Ira's archive is endangering Ira? Think about it. It's much like the GNU   
   > licence; as long as it is free we allow copying. I would be pretty pissed   
   > of if someone started selling wav2cas (it is for free - if someone is   
   > going to make money of it it should be me).   
   >   
   > Anyway I had hoped he could put up part of the archive again. Some of the   
   > stuff is public domain. Possibly someone else could too... I have some   
   > stuff on my site and there will be more. It is just a private accound so   
   > there won't be that much...   
   >   
   > Knut   
   >   
   > FRED wrote:   
   >> I gave him some of the stuff!! some of it had to be destroyed so a copy   
   >> could be made and I said that was OK because everyone would be able to   
   >> get a copy, now no one can get a copy and the stuff is destroyed. Nobody   
   >> gives a stuff about the copy write of 30 year old software.   
   >>   
   >> He's only pissed off because some prat sold some DVDs of the software on   
   >> eBay, so by cutting off all supply the stupid fuck has increased the   
   >> value of the pirate shit on sale on eBay, perhaps he's selling it and   
   >> wanted to make it more exclusive.   
   >>  But I would not piss on him if he was on fire   
   >>   
   >> IRA IS ONE OF THE INTERNET'S TRUE WANKERS   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> "turnkit"  wrote in message   
   >> news:ea15b915-6fec-4162-a379-a50b10f4f51b@h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com...   
   >>   
   >>>Okay Fred, fair enough to be angry that we can't all get the copies,   
   >>>but is it really mature or right to direct that anger at Ira?  Again,   
   >>>if you want to interpret the copyright laws (and consequence for   
   >>>challenging some people's interpretation of those laws) differently   
   >>>then Ira then can't you host the stuff yourself or encourage someone   
   >>>else to do it?  Calling Ira names over the issue misses the   
   >>>frustration we ALL have, including I can only guess Ira has, but you   
   >>>know it's really just immature.  Even though this "internet thing"   
   >>>somewhat hides people's identities we are still real people reading   
   >>>and writing.  C'mon man, channel you anger into something constructive   
   >>>instead of blaming Ira.  Really, you owe him an apology; he too wants   
   >>>to share the stuff -- it's evidence by the fact that he once did b/c   
   >>>at one time he felt it was safe to do so -- but calling him a 'greedy   
   >>>arse'?   
   >>>   
   >>>Either you are trolling for attention, which makes me an idiot because   
   >>>I am attempting to be reasonable with you, or you really are missing   
   >>>what's going on here.  If it's the latter -- that you are missing the   
   >>>issue, then it would be helpful if you would try to more mature and   
   >>>try to understand that Ira shared when he felt he could but obviously   
   >>>doesn't now, not because he's "greedy" (doh!) but because of the   
   >>>greyness of the law, and you ought apologize.   
   >>>   
   >>>I don't think I've much more to say to you on this.  But that I'd hope   
   >>>you try to be responsible with what you can so you can make a positive   
   >>>difference.  Again, we'd all love it too if you'd start a site.  See   
   >>>if Home of the Underdogs or some group wants to host TRS-80 financial   
   >>>software, Cobol apps, or Model 4 hard disk drivers!    lol.   
   >>>   
   >>>On Mar 28, 10:53 pm, "FRED"  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>it pisses me off after all the stuff I gave him that's all he gives back   
   >>>>and   
   >>>>keeps the rest hes a greedy arse   
   >>>>   
   >>>>"turnkit"  wrote in message   
   >>>>   
   >>>>news:259abaf8-ce50-46fa-aef6-e3c0883e2526@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com...   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>On Mar 23, 10:15 pm, turnkit  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>On Mar 22, 10:11 pm, "FRED"  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>>Ira has put a new picture of a book cover on his site   
   >>>>>>>What an asset to the community   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>Fred, don't be an ass et c. to the community.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>(I said it for the lulz.)   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>Seriously though Fred, you've got an interesting point ... if you'd   
   >>>>>like to do better than please do create web site of your own and post   
   >>>>>you new content links here.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>If your just going to snipe we should all realize that your just   
   >>>>>trolling.  (For those unfamiliar with the term a troll is one who   
   >>>>>posts inflammatory comments just to get a rise out of people and to   
   >>>>>create conflict.  It is a passive-aggressive technique to allow the   
   >>>>>troll/inflamatory poster to feel like the are important and   
   >>>>>controlling something.  Trolls are best left unfed because even   
   >>>>>commenting as I did tend to encourage them.)  I am responding to you   
   >>>>>Fred in the hopes that you aren't trolling -- is there a possibility   
   >>>>>you might take responsibility for the legitimate parts of your concern   
   >>>>>-- that you'd like to see more TRS-80 content available to all -- and   
   >>>>>that you will create a repository of your own or are you just going to   
   >>>>>criticize someone else's efforts?   
   >>>   
   >>   
   > --   
   > Knut   
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