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   Message 4,947 of 5,684   
   Frank Durda IV to Jim Leonard   
   Re: Tandy 1000 vs. PCjr differences?   
   09 Sep 08 18:26:29   
   
   eec20afe   
   From: uhclemLOSE.sep08@nemesis.lonestar.org   
      
   Jim Leonard  wrote:   
   : On Sep 8, 11:14?pm, Frank Durda IV   
   :  wrote:   
   : > Well, Tandy created the 320x200x16 color mode that the IBM PcJr   
   :   
   : I am not normally one to correct Mr. Durda, but the PCjr most   
   : definitely did create 320x200x16.  It is accessed on the Tandy the   
   : same way it is on the PCjr, except that the PCjr came out in 1983.   
      
   I meant a particular 320x200x16 mode.  Others had 16 color   
   resolutions before the 1000, but you had to go buy a card from   
   someone and toss the one that came with the computer.   
      
      
   : Are you saying that some Tandy 1000 models did not have DMA?  If so,   
   : that is news to me; I was under the impression all Tandy 1000s had   
   : DMA.   
      
   On the original 1000, the base unit did not have DMA.  The DMA was on   
   the optional expansion memory card.  The catalog copy:   
      
   	"256K Memory Expansion Board.  User-installable board   
   	expands your Tandy 1000 to 256K RAM.  Lets you add   
   	additional memory with expansions below.  Also includes   
   	Direct Memory Access Controller which can speed up   
   	computer operations.  25-1004 $299.95  (RSC-14)'   
      
   :   
   : > There were two thick technical reference volumes as I recall, plus a   
   : > service manual. ?No BIOS source, but all the datasheets for all the   
   : > chips (including home-grown ones) and peripherals, plus BIOS call   
   : > details, keyboard scan tables, etc.   
   :   
   : Any chance you could remember their names/numbers or something?   
   : Something I can search for on ebay?   
      
   In the 1986 (No 393) catalog these two items   
   are mentioned, but I don't know if they are the same   
   ones I remember:   
   	Programmer's Reference 25-1503   
   	Technical Reference Manual 25-1504   
   I have the ones I remember, but they are in storage so I can't   
   look up their numbers just now.   
      
   For those doing archaeological digs into the 1000 history, a thing   
   to remember was that the 250-xxxx* (aka 25-xxxx) series was opened   
   at the same time as the 1000, so all the low 25-1xxx numbers are   
   usually first-year 1000-related items.   Frager assigned most of   
   those original 1000 products' catalog numbers in sequence.   
   So, you might search Z-bay or whomever for 25-1000, 25-1001, 25-1002,   
   25-1003, etc, and perhaps the first 30-50 numbers will all be first-year   
   Tandy 1000 stuff.   There are a few minor exceptions, usually   
   things already in the catalog for the 2000 or the stop-gap 1200 system,   
   that were then re-packaged for the 1000 but still had the old 26-xxxx   
   number.   
      
   * Tandy used trailing zero suppression in the left-hand part of the   
     catalog number, so 26 was really 260, 25 was really 250, etc.   
     In some documents you may see items references with the zero   
     visible, but 250==25 and 260==26.   
      
      
   : > Still, there were hardware incompatibilities that didn't get resolved   
   : > for quite a while, like no -5V power on the ISA slots in the   
   : > original models, only discovered after someone bought a network card   
   : > from Tandy that needed -5V power to function and stuck the card   
   : > in one of those "compatible" slots.  That's why later 1000 models   
   : > have a -5V regulator taped to the motherboard.  We also had to   
   : > have custom hard-drive-cards built that used a different interrupt   
   : > because of IRQ conflicts on the early 1000 models.   
   :   
   : Do you happen to remember what IRQ those boards used?   
      
   "Those boards", you mean the network card that pointed-out the   
   problem?  As I recall it was a non-ethernet card, and probably was an   
   IBM SNA or an Arcnet card.   The early hard drive cards came   
   from a couple of different vendors including Tandon and Western   
   Digital.   
      
      
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