From: billg999@cs.uofs.edu   
      
   In article ,   
   	winston19842005  writes:   
   > On 10/27/08 8:28 AM, in article 6mlqf9Fhi4bgU1@mid.individual.net, "Bill   
   > Gunshannon"  wrote:   
   >   
   >> In article   
   >> ,   
   >> AaronB  writes:   
   >>> On Oct 18, 5:57 am, billg...@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:   
   >>>> The version for the TRS-80 (all models) was Version IV.   
   >>> I'm very sure the FMG UCSD Pascal that I used was I.5, not version IV.   
   >>> This was for use with the TRS-80 (Model I) and Model II.   
   >>> Did IV exist in 1979?   
   >>   
   >> No, early 80's.  But I have UCSD-Pascal for the Model II and Model 16   
   >> and it includeds information for moving programs and data between these   
   >> and the Model I/III and it is definitely Version IV.  Interesting now   
   >> that I think of it, I don't remember there ever being a version for   
   >> the Model 4.  I would imagine PCD gave up the business about the time   
   >> it came out.   
   >   
   > My recollection, as it is from the pov of a Texas Instruments owner, was   
   > back around 1981, TI was prototyping a sidecar (hardware) P-code device,   
   > that was II.0.   
   >   
   > IV.0 came out, and they redesigned it as a card for the Peripheral Expansion   
   > System, based on the new version. This would have been 1982, but the cards   
   > were very short in supply. I didn't find one until 1987.   
   >   
   > IV.0 was under SoftTech Microsystems.   
      
   I think II was also controled by SoftTech.  Multiple implementation licenses   
   were sold.  Version III was Apple Pascal (I believe the only implementation   
   of Version III).  Y'all piqued my interest so I dug up my UCSD-Pascal for   
   Tandy binder.  Most of the docs are dated 1982-1983.  Versions listed are:   
   ALTOS, DEC, TERAK, PDT-150, TRS-80 Model II, III. IV, 12, 16 and II->16 (which   
   I assume is a Model 16 in Model II mode :-)  I know PCD also did at least   
   one of the IBM PC implementations.  By the mid to later 80's UCSD-Pascal   
   was in decline.  The last I heard all the current rights were sold to a   
   company in Europe (Germany I think) and they still hold them.  Word was they   
   had continued development and were selling systems, but I can't verify that.   
      
   >                                       A company called Pecan software took   
   > over UCSD, and was contracted to create a version for the Myarc Geneve   
   > (TI-99 upgrade). Either that, or Myarc had bought rights to create such a   
   > version. It did not come to be, constantly delayed like many Myarc products.   
   > Eventually, a group of TIers bought out Myarc's stake in their own OS, and   
   > this probably extended to the P-system. I don't know if it was ever   
   > completed - very possibly. But with all the delays, we are talking late 80's   
   > now - probably 1988 or 1989...   
      
   I remember Pecan.  I think there were maybe a half-dozen companies in the   
   US involved in UCSD-Pascal development but it never got far.  Anybody   
   here remember the Western Digital Pascal Microengine?  I would still like   
   to get my hands on one of those.   
      
   >   
   > I have the TI IV.0 manual discussion the differences between it and earlier   
   >versions...   
      
   I have all of the SoftTech docs a bunch of Terak docs (including hardware)   
   and, of course, all the TRS80 addendum.  The only version I have used   
   recently is the TERAK version.  Maybe I should see if my Model-16 still   
   fires up and run it there again just for old time's sake.  :-)   
      
   bill   
      
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