From: bjjlyates@NOSPAMbellsouth.net   
      
   On 10/27/08 5:26 PM, in article 6mmpvhFhpa15U1@mid.individual.net, "Bill   
   Gunshannon"  wrote:   
      
   > In article ,   
   > winston19842005  writes:   
   >> On 10/27/08 8:28 AM, in article 6mlqf9Fhi4bgU1@mid.individual.net, "Bill   
   >> Gunshannon"  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> In article   
   >>> ,   
   >>> AaronB  writes:   
   >>>> On Oct 18, 5:57 am, billg...@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:   
   >>>>> The version for the TRS-80 (all models) was Version IV.   
   >>>> I'm very sure the FMG UCSD Pascal that I used was I.5, not version IV.   
   >>>> This was for use with the TRS-80 (Model I) and Model II.   
   >>>> Did IV exist in 1979?   
   >>>   
   >>> No, early 80's.  But I have UCSD-Pascal for the Model II and Model 16   
   >>> and it includeds information for moving programs and data between these   
   >>> and the Model I/III and it is definitely Version IV.  Interesting now   
   >>> that I think of it, I don't remember there ever being a version for   
   >>> the Model 4.  I would imagine PCD gave up the business about the time   
   >>> it came out.   
   >>   
   >> My recollection, as it is from the pov of a Texas Instruments owner, was   
   >> back around 1981, TI was prototyping a sidecar (hardware) P-code device,   
   >> that was II.0.   
   >>   
   >> IV.0 came out, and they redesigned it as a card for the Peripheral Expansion   
   >> System, based on the new version. This would have been 1982, but the cards   
   >> were very short in supply. I didn't find one until 1987.   
   >>   
   >> IV.0 was under SoftTech Microsystems.   
   >   
   > I think II was also controled by SoftTech.  Multiple implementation licenses   
   > were sold.  Version III was Apple Pascal (I believe the only implementation   
   > of Version III).  Y'all piqued my interest so I dug up my UCSD-Pascal for   
   > Tandy binder.  Most of the docs are dated 1982-1983.  Versions listed are:   
   > ALTOS, DEC, TERAK, PDT-150, TRS-80 Model II, III. IV, 12, 16 and II->16   
   (which   
   > I assume is a Model 16 in Model II mode :-)  I know PCD also did at least   
   > one of the IBM PC implementations.  By the mid to later 80's UCSD-Pascal   
   > was in decline.  The last I heard all the current rights were sold to a   
   > company in Europe (Germany I think) and they still hold them.  Word was they   
   > had continued development and were selling systems, but I can't verify that.   
   >   
   >>                                       A company called Pecan software took   
   >> over UCSD, and was contracted to create a version for the Myarc Geneve   
   >> (TI-99 upgrade). Either that, or Myarc had bought rights to create such a   
   >> version. It did not come to be, constantly delayed like many Myarc products.   
   >> Eventually, a group of TIers bought out Myarc's stake in their own OS, and   
   >> this probably extended to the P-system. I don't know if it was ever   
   >> completed - very possibly. But with all the delays, we are talking late 80's   
   >> now - probably 1988 or 1989...   
   >   
   > I remember Pecan.  I think there were maybe a half-dozen companies in the   
   > US involved in UCSD-Pascal development but it never got far.  Anybody   
   > here remember the Western Digital Pascal Microengine?  I would still like   
   > to get my hands on one of those.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> I have the TI IV.0 manual discussion the differences between it and earlier   
   >> versions...   
   >   
   > I have all of the SoftTech docs a bunch of Terak docs (including hardware)   
   > and, of course, all the TRS80 addendum.  The only version I have used   
   > recently is the TERAK version.  Maybe I should see if my Model-16 still   
   > fires up and run it there again just for old time's sake.  :-)   
   >   
      
   III.0 was the WD Microengine, wasn't it? Granted, Apple Pascal took off from   
   II.0.   
      
   Never heard that SoftTech sold II.0, as the University of California at San   
   Diego may have had a hard time releasing the source for that otherwise.   
      
   I have a bunch of UCSD docs in pdf format, from Randy Hyde's book to several   
   SoftTech documents...   
      
   It wasn't that long ago that I took someone else's Sudoku solver and ran it   
   on my TI-99 in UCSD Pascal. What I liked about it was its use of sets...   
      
   It actually was pretty fast. Faster than another person's assembly version.   
   Goes to show how important the underlying algorithm is, perhaps!   
      
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