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Hello Mike Powell!

** On Thursday 22.05.25 - 16:04, Mike Powell wrote to All:

 MP> The latest Gemini and ChatGPT models provide incredibly
 MP> human- and expressive-sounding conversations. Some believe
 MP> AIs have already beat the Turing test (basically when a
 MP> computer's response is indistinguishable from a human's,
 MP> at least as perceived by another human).

From https://www.livescience.com/technology/artificial- 
intelligence/what-is-the-turing-test

"While the Turing test might be held as a benchmark for AI
systems to surpass, Eleanor Watson, an expert in AI ethics and
member of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers
(IEEE),told Live Science that "The Turing Test is becoming
increasingly obsolete as a meaningful benchmark for artificial
intelligence (AI) capability."

"Watson explained that LLMs are evolving from simply mimicking
humans to being agentic systems that are able to autonomously
pursue goals via programming "scaffolding" - similar to how
human brains build new functions as information flows through
layers of neurons.

"These systems can engage in complex reasoning, generate
content creation and assist in scientific discovery. However,
the real challenge isn't whether AI can fool humans in
conversation, but whether it can develop genuine common sense,
reasoning and goal alignment that matches human values and
intentions," Watson said. "Without this deeper alignment,
passing the Turing Test becomes merely a sophisticated form of
mimicry rather than true intelligence."

"Essentially, the Turing test may be assessing the wrong things
for modern AI systems.
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