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ID, please  inside the age verification "mess" splintering the US internet

Date:
Wed, 17 Sep 2025 17:00:00 +0000

Description:
After the UK, age verification laws are changing the internet in the US, ....

FULL STORY
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Mandatory age verification has created a stir among internet users after it
landed in the UK at the end of July. Yet similar requirements are also coming
to the US, state by state. 

On the other side of the Atlantic, Brits have turned en masse to the best VPN
services to avoid scanning their face or passports to access their favorite
apps. Age checks arent limited to adult-only websites. The likes of Reddit, 
X, Instagram, Roblox, and even Spotify must age-gate content defined as 
"legal but harmful." 

In the US, on a federal level, the Kids Online Safety Act (KOSA) is still
under consideration after being reintroduced in Congress in May. Over 20
states have passed some form of age verification regulations, and others are
in the process of doing the same. 

The scope of these laws varies from state to state, and so do the rules. 

Some previously focused on enforcing mandatory age checks on adult-only sites
since at least 2023. Now, some states are in the process of beefing up
regulations by targeting minors' access to social media, harmful content, or
both. And all in different ways. 

"It's just a mess," a Senior Policy and Advocacy Expert at the Internet
Society, John Perrino, told TechRadar. "And, frankly, it's probably unlikely
to provide any meaningful online safety protections for young people."

A state-by-state legal mess

The unique issues around the US age verification laws lie in the fact that
tech providers will be required to shape their service differently according
to where their users are based. Let's look at some examples. 

The Mississippi regulation has made headlines recently as Bluesky exited the
market to avoid complying with the new rules that would force the social 
media provider to restrict access to the site for every unverified user. 

Yet, the Twitter rival didn't do so in South Dakota and Wyoming , where
similar legislation has also passed. As Bluesky explains in an official
announcement , "users in South Dakota and Wyoming can choose from multiple
methods to verify their age." An approach that, according to the company,
"strikes the right balance." 

 Tennessee has taken age verification requirements even further. It's the 
only US state that requires anyone trying to access certain restricted
websites or apps to upload their ID every 60 minutes . 

 Texas, Utah , and Louisiana are all examples of laws where age checks happen
before downloading the app. While Kansas enacted a law in 2024 that requires
sites where at least 25% of content is "harmful to minors" to verify users 
are 18 or older using a government-issued ID. 

Backed by the likes of Google, Meta, and OpenAI, California 's age
verification proposal would then require device makers and app stores to
verify users' age. 

While this overview can only scratch the surface of the US age verification
landscape  you can check the full list put together by the Free Speech
Coalition  it's enough to show how complicated these policies are. Not only
logistic problems 

"There are a lot of grey areas and, even though two dozen laws have been
passed so far, we're still figuring out what all of this means for people and
online services," Perrino told TechRadar. 

Surely, though, issues aren't limited to logistics. Similar to the UK age
verification law , in fact, these requirements mean that citizens have to
share their most sensitive pieces of information with tech providers  whether
that's their biometric details, banking accounts, or government-issued ID. 

Considering that the US still lacks a comprehensive data protection
legislation, this would occur while lacking strong accountability mechanisms
against data misues. 

Beyond privacy violations, such an invasive data collection could also cause
security risks of this data being hacked or leaked. 

Then there's the broad language around "harmful but legal" content, worrying
experts about the potential negative impact on Americans' right to free 
speech and access to information. Uploading government ID or biometric data 
is tremendously risky. Many consumers worry that such information could be
stolen and used for identity theft or to access other systems.

These concerns are exactly why every time a US state passes an age
verification law, there's a surge of VPN usage among citizens. 

A virtual private network (VPN) is a tool that both encrypts internet
connections and spoofs IP addresses. 

Picking a VPN server based in a country with no such requirements will allow
users to access adult-only sites, social media platforms, and any other
restricted websites without the need to scan their face or ID card. 

This trend has fueled a debate around VPN blocking, with Michigan taking the
hardest stance and proposing a requirement to ban the use of circumventing
tools in its " Anticorruption of Public Morals Act " proposal. 

All in all, Perrino expects these laws to turn people away  all ages and not
just minors  from services like social media platforms, which currently give
them opportunities to connect, work, or stay informed.

While US states are busy discussing and enacting age verification
requirements, the White House seems to be taking a two-sided approach to the
matter. 

The Congress has, in fact, resurrected the Kids Online Safety Act (KOSA),
which will impose a duty of care on online services to prevent and mitigate
harms to minors. 

A similar European legislation, however, the Digtal Service Act (DSA) was
heavily criticised by both the US President Trump and the Federal Trade
Commission (FTC). 

As reported by Reuters , the Trump administration has considered imposing
sanctions on the EU for censoring Americans and imposing higher costs on US
tech firms under the DSA. 

This pledge came only a few days after the FTC Chair Andrew Ferguson wrote a
letter to 13 US Big Tech companies, asking them to resist UK and EU demands 
to censor content.

What's next? 

While it is yet to be seen what the full impact on American users and tech
companies would look like as more laws are enacted, digital rights experts
believe that age verification is not the right solution to the children's
online safety conundrum. 

"We do need better online safety protections, particularly for young people.
Yet I think that the focus on age verification is misguided," Perrino told
TechRadar. 

More efficient solutions may include better default protections for parents
and young people that don't invade their privacy and security. Education and
media literacy are also needed to prepare both minors and adults to the
dangers of having a digital life. 

All in all, Perrino believes that such a splintered age verification policy
landscape may be bound to fail, ultimately bringing more harm than good. 

He said: "Technically, the internet is not divided state by state  nor
necessarily, country by country. It's a global internet. The patchwork of
these age verification rules just won't work for people, and it will change
the internet as we know it."

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Link to news story:
https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/id-please-inside-the-age-ve
rification-mess-splintering-the-us-internet

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