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 Mike Powell to All 
 The vote on Chat Control 
 14 Oct 25 08:31:10 
 
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The vote on Chat Control has been postponed, but the fight isnt over yet
here's what we know

Date:
Mon, 13 Oct 2025 15:21:02 +0000

Description:
The move comes as Germany officially joined the opposition, making it
impossible again to reach the needed majority. Yet, the EU is still working 
on the proposal.

FULL STORY

The EU's plan to monitor all citizens' private chats remains far from 
becoming law  for now. 

EU lawmakers have postponed a crucial vote on the controversial Child Sexual
Abuse Regulation (CSAR), which was scheduled for October 14 between the EU
Council and the EU Justice Minister. 

The move comes as Germany joined the opposition on Wednesday, October 7, 
after arguing that chat monitoring must remain taboo and the government "will
not agree" to the proposal. 

Germany's decision is likely to be why Chat Control has failed to attract the
needed majority, yet again. 

As per the Danish iteration of the bill, all messaging apps operating in
Europe would be required to scan all URLs, pictures, and videos shared by
their users in the lookout for child sexual abuse material (CSAM)  even when
the messages are encrypted. 

Crucially, experts have long argued that such scanning isn't compatible with
how encryption works. Encryption is the technology that Signal, WhatsApp,
ProtonMail, and even the best VPN apps use to scramble the content of users'
messages into an unreadable form, preventing unauthorized access. 

The CSAR proposal has been attracting strong criticism for its implications 
on privacy and security, sparking a fierce debate around Europe. 

Signals vice-president for global affairs even compared this mandatory
client-side scanning to " malware on your device ." Over 40 European
privacy-first tech companies have also warned against the impact on the EU's
digital sovereignty . More than 500 cryptography experts also signed an open
letter arguing that the bill still fails to address concerns around
encryption, indiscriminate surveillance, and accuracy.

Vote delayed, but Chat Control still on the table

This isn't the first time the EU has disagreed on Chat Control  a proposal
that first appeared on the EU agenda in 2022. Yet, the bill keeps coming back
to the lawmaker's table. 

It is then only fair to assume that, despite the matter disappearing from the
October 14 agenda , the vote has only been delayed, and Chat Control is set 
to return to the EU Council soon. 

According to former MEP for the German Pirate Party and digital rights 
jurist, Patrick Breyer, "EU governments continue to work on the proposal," he
wrote on X . 

The next meeting may occur in a couple of months as, Breyer explains, EU
interior ministers are set to meet again on December 6 and 7.

On a similar note is X, who commented from its Global Government Affairs
account: "This delay marks an important step in protecting secure
communications, but the fight is not over! Member States are still 
negotiating the provisions of the proposal with the goal to bring it back for
a vote." 

Also, President of the non-profit Signal Foundation, Meredith Whittaker, 
isn't ready to fully celebrate this win for privacy. 

"We expect closed-door negotiations to engage in rhetorical arbitrage
claiming to support privacy by using word games and bespoke definitions while
in practice undermining it," wrote  Whittaker on X . 

Something is clear, though. Whittaker said, "You can't create a backdoor that
only lets the 'good guys' in. However they're dressed up, these proposals
create cybersecurity loopholes that hackers and hostile nations are eagerly
waiting to exploit."

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Link to news story:
https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/the-vote-on-chat-control-ha
s-been-postponed-but-the-fight-isnt-over-yet-heres-what-we-know

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