BK>>  Of course we won't. That would take facing down the republicans.
BK>> The administration would defend their failure to do that as
BK>> "picking our battles." This is the battle they should chose to
BK>> fight.

 RW> Right, but I don't see us moving to even support those
 RW> movements.  FIrst, even if we would find intervention
 RW> desirable we're already spread too thin militarily, so
 RW> we'll have to just watch and see what happens.

 That is why I say pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan as soon as
 possible. Note, not as soon as convenient.

 ...

BK>>  I hold that the only right to exist Israel has is the same as  any
BK>> other nation, the fact that they do exist. That does not  imply a
BK>> requirement on our part that we support every extreme  thing they
BK>> do.

 RW> That's essentially my position.  tHey exist, that's a fact
 RW> of life, but that doesn't mean we should prop them up.

 It does put us in a position to demand they be reasonable.

 ...

 RW>> I'm supposed to buy into the assertion this is a fraud made
 RW>> by the same scamsters who ripped off the American taxpayer
 RW>> to the tune of millions for this tarp horse hockey.  > I'm gonna rush right out and do that.>

BK>>  You do realize that was the ironic form of speech, don't you?

 RW> Knew that .  Still these anti science barbarians get
 RW> about as much respect from me as do the Qaedas.
 RW> Imho they're dangerous to the survival of the human race.

 More dangerous. There is no Islamic terror group or association
 of groups that threatens the survival of this country. The
 anti-science clique threatens a lot of damage to this country,
 and the world.

 ...

BK>>>  I agree. As I said, mix government and religion and it's bad for
BK>>> both.

 RW>> OF course it is, but we still have plenty of that mixture,
 RW>> and the religionists want more.

 We need a president strong enough to stand up to them, and
 secure enough in his beliefs to stand up for them.

BK>>  Obama should abolish the Office of Faith Based Initiatives.
BK>> Straight out abolish it as unconstitutional.

 RW> I've thought that should be declared unconstitutional from
 RW> the get-go.

 Exactly.

 ...

 RW>> But then we'd be severely punishing our own, and punishing
 RW>> the biggest ISrael boosters from their NEw York City board
 RW>> rooms.

BK>>  I feel so sad for them. (Stopping to wipe a tear from the corner
BK>> of my eye.)

 RW> ME too .

BK>>>  Just today reading the reason Al Qaeda has been totally silent  on
BK>>> Egypt, it's a denial of everything Al Qaeda stands for. Seems  Al
BK>>> Qaeda hates the Muslim Brotherhood. The MB renounced
BK>>>  violence, and this revolution was pulled off peacefully. Al  Qaeda
BK>>> stands for violent revolution, and this shows them up  badly.

 RW>> COol!

 RW> If stable truly representative governments do happen to
 RW> spring up the Qaedas have lost their best recruiting tool.
 RW> They know this.  tHIs is the biggest reason we should aid
 RW> and abet those movements.

 BINGO!

BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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