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   From: crwlrjeff@yahoo.com   
      
   "benj"  wrote in message   
   news:gQ1lw.418430$5U6.313681@fx01.iad...   
   > On 12/19/2014 04:50 PM, Jeff Strickland wrote:   
   >>   
   >> "Klaus Schadenfreude"  wrote in message   
   >> news:vg299a5l9d7k4g1l4eu8omt73d8m69vfdh@4ax.com...   
   >>> On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 21:00:01 +0100 (CET), "Mike Miner"   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> DENVER — In a letter to prosecutors released Friday, the parents   
   >>>> of accused Aurora movie theater killer James Holmes are asking   
   >>>> for his life to be spared.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Holmes faces the death penalty in connection with the 12   
   >>>> shooting deaths at a suburban Denver movie theater in July 2012.   
   >>>> Jury summons last week were sent to to 9,000 potential jurors   
   >>>> for a trial that's expected to begin in earnest in the spring or   
   >>>> early summer.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> In their letter, Holmes' parents say their son suffers from   
   >>>> mental illness and begged prosecutors to agree to a plea deal   
   >>>> that would see him locked up for life and spared execution.   
   >>>> Holmes pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity and has   
   >>>> undergone two formal — and still confidential — mental-health   
   >>>> evaluations.   
   >>>   
   >>> I think about 60 years of being corn-holed by every inmate in the   
   >>> prison would be preferable to the death penalty.   
   >>>   
   >>> Make it so.   
   >>>   
   >> I think he should be executed at dawn on Tuesday. He is the very   
   >> definition of "monster." I think he should have been executed long ago,   
   >> we should not be talking today about what should or should not happen to   
   >> this guy.   
   >   
   > The American idea so fervently embraced by Hitler is that of eugenics. You   
   > know, the idea that those who are old, sick or defective in some way need   
   > to be killed for the betterment of the master race.   
      
      
   It's not an issue of "master race" (both James Holmes and myself are white,   
   and by most accounts we are of a similar socio-economic class), it's an   
   issue of punishment for crimes committed.   
      
      
      
   It's really no   
   > different than pulling weeds in your garden! You are probably not aware of   
   > this but the REAL gas chambers in WWII Germany, the ones with the actual   
   > fake showerheads, were not used in the slave labor camps (why would you   
   > kill your slaves by any means but working them to death?) but were in the   
   > eugenics facilities used for killing mental patients, homosexuals (said to   
   > be the same thing) and other "defectives".   
   >   
   > There is no doubt that killing the nutjobs gets the problem out of sight,   
   > but in civilized societies eugenics is regarded as (except by Libs) as an   
   > uncivilized way of dealing with the problem,.   
   >   
   > One must remember that the current state of mental cures is extremely   
   > primitive and the chances of any real "cure" are virtually nil,   
   > nevertheless a civilized society says you have to try.   
   >   
      
      
   James Holmes was not a mental patient. Indeed, there is little to suggest   
   that he was a mental case before he undertook the crazy act of opening fire   
   in a movie theater. Jared Loughtner (the guy that took shots at the   
   congresswoman in Tucson) was a known mental case that his own parents could   
   not get committed. He is a guy that should have been in a rubber room with   
   sleeves that tied in the back, but James Holmes' imbalance was not such that   
   he should have been committed under the current guidelines under which   
   people can be committed. He had issues with instability, that is known. Most   
   of his claim to mental illness is, "look at what I did, it's crazy so I must   
   be mental." He is using his insane act as evidence of his insanity.   
   Laughtner, and Adam Lanza (the Sandy Hook shooter) had long histories of   
   instability that should have allowed the respective families to have them   
   committed. Laughtner's parents ignored the signs, Lanza's mother had come to   
   the realization that her son needed to be committed, but could not get it   
   done -- it has been reported that she finally had gotten him committed, and   
   this set him off.   
      
   You are making a strange mix of fruit in your basket.   
      
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