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   XPost: talk.politics.guns   
   From: ingilt@yahoo.co.uk   
      
   On 07/12/2015 15:56, Lady Veteran wrote:   
   > On Sat,  5 Dec 2015 22:08:07 +0100 (CET), "Cliff"    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> In article    
   >> Lady Veteran  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> On Sat,  5 Dec 2015 09:48:41 +0100 (CET), "Cliff"    
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> In article    
   >>>> Jeanne Douglas  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> In article ,   
   >>>>>   "Mel Schacher"  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> "Klaus Schadenfreude"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>> news:di436bdskhbrqm1vh7d66d12futcegldtv@4ax.com...   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 4 Dec 2015 02:29:36 GMT, MarkA  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Thu, 03 Dec 2015 07:49:37 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On 3 Dec 2015 15:16:10 GMT, MarkA  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 03 Dec 2015 03:03:49 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 2 Dec 2015 21:11:40 GMT, MarkA  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 02 Dec 2015 12:01:11 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Dec 2015 17:34:55 GMT, MarkA    
   wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 02 Dec 2015 04:36:10 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2015 17:19:13 GMT, MarkA    
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardly a straw man.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone who opposes abortion on demand is making the   
   statement   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that a microscopic clump of cells is more important than the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> woman whose uterus is being usurped.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Straw man and, of course, a lie.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How so?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The whole statement is just leftist  hyperbolic bullshit.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hardly.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Absolutely. I'm not here to argue "everyone's" position.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Apparently, you're not even here to argue your own.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> I've already done it. You couldn't handle it so you started bringing   
   >>>>>>>>>> up other people's positions for me to defend.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Doesn't work that way.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Actually, you were doing pretty well, right up until I started   
   pointing   
   >>>>>>>>> out how internally inconsistent your views are.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Except they are NOT inconsistent.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> If you say a woman does   
   >>>>>>>>> NOT have the right to defend her uterus from an unwanted fetus   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> ROFLMAO   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Now you're just being stupid.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> "Defend her uterus..."   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> "Laugh laugh laugh laugh."   
   >>>>>>>>   -Lee Harrison 1957-2012, RIP   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Typical conservative: if reality conflicts with your beliefs, deny   
   >>>>>>> reality.  I hope you never get a parasite.  It would be "stupid" to   
   >>>>>>> defend your body against it, right?  And you still can't figure out why   
   >>>>>>> you are inconsistent?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Typical ignorant liberal- desperately trying to compare a human baby   
   >>>>>> with a parasite.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> If the woman doesn't want to have a baby, the fetus IS a parasite,   
   >>>>> stealing nutrients from its host.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The woman didn't feel that way when she was getting her goop   
   >>>> chute pounded and inviting all those parasite seeds in.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> What do you call that?  Post-pounded depression?   
   >>>   
   >>> How about women who get raped? You want to force to have this spawn   
   >>> from hell?   
   >>   
   >> We're not discussing negro and hispanic sexual habits in this   
   >> thread.  Yet.   
   >>   
   >>> Of course you would. You are Republican.   
   >>   
   >> Wrong.  I'm Libertarian.  If you don't want to get knocked up,   
   >> close your legs and make better choices.  It's not my   
   >> responsibility to pay for your lack of.   
   >>   
   >>> LV   
   >   
   > How about you do the same. It takes two to tango you know.   
   >   
      
   He may be a Libertarian, but he clearly hasn't thought through the   
   ramifications and implications for himself.   
      
   I won't even go into the scenario whether this is really the advice he   
   would give his wife or daughter if they were raped, or whether he really   
   thinks keeping legs closed will work against an assailant who is often   
   more aggressive, bigger, heavier and possibly armed.   
      
   Nor will I ask about the possibility of reasonable precautions failing.   
      
   Rather, he seems to be unaware of what unwanted babies do cost him,   
   personally.  It's his taxes that pay for housing and care of children   
   that are unwanted and abandoned or taken away from incapable parents.   
   It is his taxes that pay for law enforcement from policing right through   
   to imprisonment of the no-hoper underclass that is being bred by the   
   system.  His tax dollars and healthcare premiums finance medical care   
   for mothers and babies that are unwanted and/or unable to fend for   
   themselves.  Now, he might argue that he should not have to pay for any   
   of that -- and good luck with that, as he becomes the victim of crime or   
   falls prey to a disease.  These are direct consequences of an   
   anti-abortion stance, and they come with a dollar sign.   
      
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