XPost: rec.food.baking, alt.politics.usa.constitution, alt.politics.republicans   
   XPost: alt.politics.homosexuality, misc.legal   
   From: none@none.com   
      
   On 9/28/2018 8:52 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   > On 9/28/2018 7:31 PM, Peter Franks wrote:   
   >> On 9/25/2018 5:57 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   >>> On 9/25/2018 1:45 PM, Peter Franks wrote:   
   >>>> On 9/19/2018 2:18 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   >>>>> On 9/19/2018 12:03 PM, Peter Franks wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 9/19/2018 11:42 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 9/19/2018 10:50 AM, Peter Franks wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> {snip}   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> If there no authority to compel the individual on behalf of the   
   >>>>>>>> individual, then there is no authority to compel the individual   
   >>>>>>>> on behalf of the nation.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I disagree.  Again, consider the military draft.  I suspect you   
   >>>>>>> agree there is no authority to compel someone to join the   
   >>>>>>> military on behalf of the individual, but there is authority to   
   >>>>>>> compel someone to join the military on behalf of the nation.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> You didn't answer the questions, therefore I've taken that as your   
   >>>>>> implicit admission that there is no such authority to compel the   
   >>>>>> individual on behalf of the individual or on behalf of the nation.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Huh?  I just said there *is* an authority to compel the individual   
   >>>>> on behalf of the nation.  And either you agree or you think there   
   >>>>> is no authority to compel someone to join the military.  Which is it?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> No, you never answered my questions therefore we revert to my   
   >>>> statements, with evidence, as fact.  Your diversion and avoidance   
   >>>> have been ignored, as have your baseless statements of fiction.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> My prior response stands: the baker can not be compelled.   
   >>>   
   >>> Can an individual compel another to join the military?  Can the   
   >>> government compel a person to join the military?   
   >>   
   >> Unlike you, I can answer questions.  Watch this space here:   
   >>   
   >> No.   
   >>   
   >> No.   
   >   
   > So, no military draft is permitted?  Amazing!   
      
   We've already covered this -- citizens are obligated to support and   
   defend the nation.   
      
   And back to the original point that I made, and you had absolutely no   
   counterargument of any substance:   
      
   The baker can't be compelled.   
      
   You can't refute that because there is no refutation.  Your entire   
   counter argument is summed up in your comment of "Amazing!".   
      
   What is amazing here is that you can't see the light of day, at noon   
   day.  Wake up my friend, wake up.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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