XPost: rec.food.baking, alt.politics.usa.constitution, alt.politics.republicans   
   XPost: alt.politics.homosexuality, misc.legal   
   From: noway@nowhere.com   
      
   On 10/17/2018 10:41 AM, Peter Franks wrote:   
   > On 10/17/2018 10:28 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
      
   {snip}   
      
   >> So, no military draft is permitted?   
   >   
   > In critical times of defense, citizens are obligated to provide for the   
   > common defense of the nation.   
   >   
   > Those citizens that do not fulfill their obligation are subject to   
   > punishment and/or ejection from the society.   
      
   Who gets to decide what constitutes "critical times of defense"?   
   > Defense of the nation is an obligation of every citizen.  The same can   
   > not be said of baking a cake.   
   >   
   > You have not provide ONE SHRED of reasoning to justify your stand that   
   > the baker can be compelled to bake a cake.   
   Using your semantics, the question isn't whether a baker can be   
   compelled to bake a cake.  Instead, it's whether the baker can be   
   punished for not baking a cake.   
      
   The line of questions on the military draft are intended to establish a   
   standard for when the government can punish someone for not doing   
   something.  Once we have established that standard, we can apply it to   
   baking cakes.  I continue to ask questions because we haven't yet   
   established the standard.   
      
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