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|    Josh Rosenbluth to Peter Franks    |
|    Re: 'Bake the cake or else' is back: Bak    |
|    17 Oct 18 14:29:10    |
   
   XPost: rec.food.baking, alt.politics.usa.constitution, alt.politics.republicans   
   XPost: alt.politics.homosexuality, misc.legal   
   From: noway@nowhere.com   
      
   On 10/17/2018 11:45 AM, Peter Franks wrote:   
   > On 10/17/2018 11:15 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   >> On 10/17/2018 10:50 AM, Peter Franks wrote:   
   >>> On 10/17/2018 10:28 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   >>>> On 10/17/2018 9:51 AM, Peter Franks wrote:   
   >>   
   >> {snip}   
   >>   
   >>>>> Does not baking a cake violate the rights of others?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I'm not sure until you clarify how not paying taxes violates the   
   >>>> rights of others.   
   >>> The right of life, liberty, and happiness are violated:   
   >>>   
   >>> If one person doesn't pay taxes, they have more free time and income   
   >>> than the person that must then pay more to compensate.   
   >>>   
   >>> Assume tax freedom day of April 24 (2015 est.); all days prior to   
   >>> that are 'tax bondage days'.   
   >>>   
   >>> If you don't pay your taxes, someone else must compensate, and their   
   >>> tax freedom day extends accordingly. You, by not paying your fair   
   >>> share of taxes, limits the freedom (liberty) of another in that they   
   >>> are then obligated to compensate for your abdication of responsibility.   
   >>   
   >> It seems to me that not getting that cake negatively impacts on the   
   >> happiness of the would-be customer.   
   >   
   > And not getting $1MM presumably negatively impacts your happiness. Are   
   > you then going to take, by force, $$ from your rich neighbor? Of course   
   > not. Try again.   
   >   
   > People are free to /pursue/ happiness, but not -- repeat NOT -- demand   
   > it from others. Try again, again.   
   >   
   > What right is violated by not baking a cake?   
      
   I answered the question (negatively impacts the pursuit of happiness,   
   and as a result harms the nation). We just happen to disagree on   
   whether that is a right.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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