XPost: rec.food.baking, alt.politics.usa.constitution, alt.politics.republicans   
   XPost: alt.politics.homosexuality, misc.legal   
   From: none@none.com   
      
   On 10/17/2018 2:29 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   > On 10/17/2018 11:45 AM, Peter Franks wrote:   
   >> On 10/17/2018 11:15 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   >>> On 10/17/2018 10:50 AM, Peter Franks wrote:   
   >>>> On 10/17/2018 10:28 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   >>>>> On 10/17/2018 9:51 AM, Peter Franks wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> {snip}   
   >>>   
   >>>>>> Does not baking a cake violate the rights of others?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I'm not sure until you clarify how not paying taxes violates the   
   >>>>> rights of others.   
   >>>> The right of life, liberty, and happiness are violated:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> If one person doesn't pay taxes, they have more free time and income   
   >>>> than the person that must then pay more to compensate.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Assume tax freedom day of April 24 (2015 est.); all days prior to   
   >>>> that are 'tax bondage days'.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> If you don't pay your taxes, someone else must compensate, and their   
   >>>> tax freedom day extends accordingly.  You, by not paying your fair   
   >>>> share of taxes, limits the freedom (liberty) of another in that they   
   >>>> are then obligated to compensate for your abdication of responsibility.   
   >>>   
   >>> It seems to me that not getting that cake negatively impacts on the   
   >>> happiness of the would-be customer.   
   >>   
   >> And not getting $1MM presumably negatively impacts your happiness.   
   >> Are you then going to take, by force, $$ from your rich neighbor?  Of   
   >> course not.  Try again.   
   >>   
   >> People are free to /pursue/ happiness, but not -- repeat NOT -- demand   
   >> it from others.  Try again, again.   
   >>   
   >> What right is violated by not baking a cake?   
   >   
   > I answered the question (negatively impacts the pursuit of happiness,   
   > and as a result harms the nation).   
      
   Are you suggesting that I can demand anyone and everyone provide   
   whatever I desire in my pursuit of happiness?   
      
   > We just happen to disagree on   
   > whether that is a right.   
      
   Disagree on what?  The right to compel?   
      
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