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   XPost: alt.politics.homosexuality, misc.legal   
   From: noway@nowhere.com   
      
   On 10/18/2018 3:22 PM, Peter Franks wrote:   
   > On 10/18/2018 10:22 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   >> On 10/18/2018 9:39 AM, Peter Franks wrote:   
   >>> On 10/17/2018 2:29 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   >>   
   >> {snip}   
   >>   
   >>>>> What right is violated by not baking a cake?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I answered the question (negatively impacts the pursuit of   
   >>>> happiness, and as a result harms the nation).   
   >>>   
   >>> Are you suggesting that I can demand anyone and everyone provide   
   >>> whatever I desire in my pursuit of happiness?   
   >>   
   >> No.  I am saying the government can punish a baker for not serving   
   >> someone because it is securing a right.   
   >   
   > Does the baker have the right to not bake a cake?   
      
   Yes.  This is a case of competing rights.   
      
   >>>> We just happen to disagree on whether that is a right.   
   >>>   
   >>> Disagree on what?  The right to compel?   
   >>   
   >> We disagree about whether the government is securing a right when it   
   >> punishes a baker for not serving someone.   
   >   
   > What if there is no baker.  Is the right still infringed?   
      
   No.   
      
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