XPost: rec.food.baking, alt.politics.usa.constitution, alt.politics.republicans   
   XPost: alt.politics.homosexuality, misc.legal   
   From: none@none.com   
      
   On 10/29/2018 2:06 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   > On 10/29/2018 1:25 PM, Peter Franks wrote:   
   >> On 10/18/2018 10:22 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   >>> On 10/18/2018 9:39 AM, Peter Franks wrote:   
   >>>> On 10/17/2018 2:29 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> {snip}   
   >>>   
   >>>>>> What right is violated by not baking a cake?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I answered the question (negatively impacts the pursuit of   
   >>>>> happiness, and as a result harms the nation).   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Are you suggesting that I can demand anyone and everyone provide   
   >>>> whatever I desire in my pursuit of happiness?   
   >>>   
   >>> No.  I am saying the government can punish a baker for not serving   
   >>> someone because it is securing a right.   
   >>   
   >> I'm going to take a different tack.   
   >>   
   >> The right is to pursue happiness.   
   >>   
   >> Not be provided happiness.   
   >>   
   >> Therefore your assertion that it is securing a right is proved false.   
   >   
   > Being serviced by a baker isn't a guarantee of happiness.  It's the   
   > pursuit of happiness.   
      
   Blah, blah, blah.   
      
   You assert that being required to serve is a right of those being   
   served, which NECESSARILY REQUIRES that those that are served have   
   authority over those that serve.   
      
   Yet you can not describe where that authority over another comes from.   
   And we are right back to the beginning of this and every other thread in   
   which we have engaged, and you have NEVER addressed.   
      
   So, you have the opportunity, once again, to end the discussion by   
   describing WHERE the authority of one over another comes from.   
      
   Come on, my friend, answer the question.  But don't use the words   
   'amazing' or 'absurd', but actually describe how the authority is   
   unequally derived...   
      
   Go on, I dare you to actually answer the question.   
      
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