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   From: noway@nowhere.com   
      
   On 11/19/2018 12:03 PM, Peter Franks wrote:   
   > On 11/16/2018 6:43 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   >> On 11/16/2018 5:24 PM, Peter Franks wrote:   
   >>> On 11/16/2018 5:04 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   >>>> On 11/16/2018 4:55 PM, Peter Franks wrote:   
   >>>>> On 11/16/2018 4:35 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> {snip}   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>> How is it possible in your rights-based government for the baker   
   >>>>>> and the would-be customer to be treated equally?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> If both agree to the terms of the transaction, then the equal   
   >>>>> transfer of one form of value in exchange for something else of value.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> If either party disagrees for whatever reason, there is no   
   >>>>> transaction. The customer can refuse to buy for whatever reason.   
   >>>>> The baker can refuse to sell for whatever reason.  They are each   
   >>>>> equal.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> If the baker refuses to sell, the customer's right to pursue   
   >>>> happiness is denied.  If the customer refuses to buy, the baker has   
   >>>> no right denied.  That's not equal treatment.   
   >>>   
   >>> The baker was going to take the profits of the sale and go buy a   
   >>> candy bar.  He has been denied the right to pursue his happiness.   
   >>   
   >> I disagree because of the small number of bakers compared to the large   
   >> number of customers.   
   >   
   > Rights are based on quantity?   
      
   The baker's ability to pursue happiness is not impacted because some   
   other customer will buy his product.  In contrast, the customer's   
   ability to pursue happiness is impacted because he has a limited number   
   of bakers to choose from, and the one he prefers may very well be the   
   one who makes the best cakes (delivering the greatest happiness).   
      
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