20 Jan 11 22:50, BOB KLAHN wrote to ALL:

 BK>   Ok, readers... either Earl knows a lot less than he wants you to
 BK>  think he does, or he is counting on your ignorance to get away
 BK>  with that.

Really? I hadn't noticed.

 BK>  When you renew an echo you do not send in a listing, you send in
 BK>  an update. Officially, an moderator update. Shortened to
 BK>  Mod Upd.

Wrong. Updating an echolisting can be done either way. Some moderators do
it the hard way and some have learned to update with the shortened
version. In either case, the subject of your update will be; Mod Upd.

 BK>  Just so you know a bit about how it works.

I think I've been updating echoes long enough to know the procedure, in
and out.

OTH, I've quit using the Echolist to list my echoes, as the echolist
keeper has turned out to be a crook. He's like you, listing echoes in
hopes that people will recognize him as the moderator. He tried that shit
with the HAM echo and got his ass kicked for it.

 BK>  Hey, all readers... I have been at this long enough to know, if
 BK>  you try to list an already listed echo without the correct
 BK>  password, it won't work.

No shit, little beaver. Where'd you get your first clue, attempting to
hijack someone's echo?

 BK>  So, had I checked the echo list and found I did not have the
 BK>  echo listed I would have known submitting an update would not
 BK>  work.

Actually, an echolisting may not take affect and you'll have to do it
again so that jerks like you don't hijack the echo. Checking the echolist
echo for a notice of renewal is a smart thing to do. Checking the echolist
might be too late, as someone like you could come along and hijack it
while your update has been lost by the robot, or his master.

Fact is that Earl got a message from the list stating that YOU tried to
list it. That's what is known among legitimate moderators as a hijack
attempt. You're not the first dickhead who's done that.

 EC>> A renewal is the easiest thing in the world.  You go to your
 EC>> previously-sent e-mail to the echolist, and you send it
 EC>> again.  He did not do that in November.  When he tried to
 EC>> ban two people, he suddenly realized that he had never
 EC>> listed ALL-POLITICS and he tried to grab it.

 BK>  Uh, that is a lie. He did not even offer that as speculation, he
 BK>  said it as if it were a fact. That makes it a lie.

Obviously, unless you have a history of being the moderator, you can't ban
anyone from an echo without proof of moderatorship. The sysops who run the
echomail distribution systems won't recognize you as the moderator without
echolist proof or a long history as the moderator of said echo.

 BK>  I have used two different email services, and two different BBSs
 BK>  and 4 different passwords for renewing All Politics in the two
 BK>  years I have had it listed.

You're that unstable, eh...

 BK> In several cases I typed it all in rather than reusing an old update,
 BK> for the simple reason I did not have an old msg available on that
 BK> service.

Bullshit. If you've had all this experience that you claim as a moderator
and you've been updating echoes, you would be keeping a file on your
system that would be easy enough to import to email and send it off.
Unless you're dumber than a stump.

Here's a sample, in case you can't figure it out.

FROM xxxx22@yahoo.com
TAG  POL-INC
TITL Politically Incorrect

PASS xxx+xxxxxx
MOD  Roy Witt, 1:10/22, xsyp22@yahoo.com
MOD  Dale Ross, 1:379/1,
DESC Tired of the same old 2 party system? If so, you are welcome
DESC here along with all the other political parties, including
DESC those "major 2". There are no favored politics in this Echo.
DESC All are free game, or, to paraphrase Abbie Hoffman, 'After
DESC a little tenderizing, those sacred cows make best hamburgers.'
DESC Please read the rules file or request them upon entering
DESC the Echo
REST /REA /RUL
ORIG 1:10/22
DIST Private Distribution. (Zones 1-6)
GROUP FIDO
LANG  American English, English
RUL POL_INC.RUL
-+-

I'm sure you could remember all of that to make your updates. However,
this is how to do a shortened version.


FROM rex2@san.rr.com
TAG  CWL
MOD   Norm Bowden, 3:770/245, normb@paradise.net.nz
PASS  #$%CWL@#
-+-

Even that will be hard to type from memory, especially if you don't bother
to update your echo for six months (most moderators update every month).

 BK>  BFD. As I said, I have been at this for quite a few years. I
 BK>  know you can't update an echo if you don't have the correct
 BK>  password. I have enough copies of those msgs for the Debate
 BK>  echo, when I used a password for another echo.

See above, Dumbass.

 BK>  Earl truly thinks you are all fools or as corrupt as he is if he
 BK>  thinks you are buying his deception. Or is he right?

None of the above. You're the fool, attempting to justify your hijack
attempts when everyone knows you're a liar and are so full of shit it
runs out of your mouth.

 BK>  Well, you could say I gave him credit for enough integrity to
 BK>  not poach another person's echo. However, giving Earl credit for
 BK>  integrity would be way out of line.

As if you ever had any to give.

                R\%/itt

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