On 10-18-10, MARK LEWIS said to ROSS CASSELL:


ml> FWIW: i don't understand everyone else whining about folk using the
ml> services that they have paid into for so long and never will use...


RC> When the system gets abused by those who didnt pay into it?


ML>why is that abuse? there is nothing that i'm aware of that says anyone who
ML>participates in is must have paid something into it...


ML>why is it abuse when they can use the monies that you have paid in that
ML>you'll never use?



I don't have a whole lot of time that early in the morning when I first
replied to this. Let me take this a little further.


Everybody who works pays some of their money earned as taxes. And in return we
recieve from the government that collects those taxes, certain values: a
military that keeps us from being attacked by a foreign army, enforcement of
certain basic laws against criminals, etc.


The money people earn for themselves they use for their own support, and the
support of their family and loved ones.


The money the government takes in taxes they have been mis-using. They have
been giving some of that money that comes out of the pockets of those who
work, to people who `don't' work. Thats about the same thing as `wealth re-
distribution'.


They take from those who produce.....and give to those who do `not' produce.
And they do so at the point of a gun. If you don't believe that....just try
not paying your taxes for awhile, and watch how fast some armed government
agents show up at your door, handcuff you, and haul you away to face charges.


So..... some people come up with a need (those who don't work but
must eat and be housed) gets laid on the shoulders of those who `do' work, in
the form of an obligation, enforced at the point of a gun.


In truth, the fact that someone developes a need does not automatically create
an obligation on the rest of us to fill that need. At least it isn't supposed
to.


There are those in our society who have been nothing but burdens on the rest
of us all their lives. Their entire employment history is't just dismal, in
some cases its non-existant. They are the failures of society, the ones who
are too lazy to work, or have some piss-poor excuse for why they don't (their
back hurts.....or they get headaches....whatever).


They have learned to scam the system, some of them, making a lively-hood of
living on the dole.





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