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-=> Doug Cooper wrote to Dennisk <=-

 De> have two girls, 5 and 7.  We have a pocket money system for them too,
 De> but they haven't quite learned the value of money.  That is to say, they
 De> don't quite get that when it runs out, you stop getting things you like.
 De> Perhaps a better lesson is to suggest they save up for something big
 De> they like, so that there is a goal to achieve and work towards.

 DC> Growing up my single mom, and remarried dad, only had enough money to
 DC> buy me things on my Birthday and Christmas.  All other times, I had to
 DC> save if I wanted anything.  It's hard to get the wife to quit buying
 DC> them things just "because," but when they ask me, I would assigna
 DC> chore.  The problem was, I would forget how much I told them I'd give
 DC> them, or since I don't carry cash, I'd forget to pay them.  So ..
 DC> they'd get something much more valuable then what was earned as a
 DC> result.  So the chore ap is great.  The Busy Kid ap, specifically,
 DC> allows the parent to set a "save percent," which is great.  My boys
 DC> will ask me to transfer money out so they can buy "RoBucks" all the
 DC> time.  I just say now.  One day they'll want a $80 game and I'll ask
 DC> them to look at their ap.  They'll likely have it in there and have
 DC> earned it.  I have had to tweak "who does what" based on age, as my 8
 DC> year old hasn't been diligent with the weeds in the flower beds, but
 DC> the 12 year old kicks butt at them; conversely, the 8 year old picks up
 DC> the dog doo just fine daily.  It's been a life saver and the kids are
 DC> all over the ap daily.  It has a lot of preloaded chores that I
 DC> wouldn't have thought of that are very helpful, all the way down to
 DC> "brush your teeth," so I'm not the helicopter dad constantly reminding
 DC> them.

 DC> I agree with you on Facebook.  I don't trust their tracking, I don't
 DC> like that the second I walk into a store, Facebook ads are appearing of
 DC> the store I had just visited.  I also don't like employers snooping
 DC> social media to see if my political views, page likes, etc.. match
 DC> their "culture."  I'm old enough to keep my mouth shut when I don't
 DC> agree with someone, and smart enough not to share political memes, but
 DC> I might like Fox News over CNN, and don't like the idea of an employer
 DC> not hiring as a result of something so trivial.  Lastly, I don't get
 DC> facebook frankly ... It was designed to connect friends and family that
 DC> wouldn't otherwise see one another.  If it had stayed in that lane, I'd
 DC> be content with it.  My family has switched to Marco Polo for that
 DC> purpose, it's like Video Texting and much better then seeing static
 DC> photos of my nephews ...

 DC> Glad to meet you, where are you from?  I'm in Carmel Indiana.

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I am from Melbourne, Australia.  The money I had growing up was what I got for
my Birthday or Christmas, I didn't have pocket money, despite asking.  But my
grandparents would buy a lot of stuff from garage sales, so we often had second
hand stuff dumped on us.  So the first few computers I had were bought by my
mum for very little, but they were way out of date.  An XT system didn't get
you far in 1993, but it only cost $30 AUD.  That reminds me, I have to find
where it is.  I never got rid of it.

My wife doesn't like the kids using tech that much, so no apps I'm afraid (she
is the only one with a phone that could run it anyway).

The lesson I want to teach my children isn't just about money, but resources. 
Not to be wasteful, that even if you can afford to buy something, you should
think twice about whether you really need it.  Plastic toys may be cheap and
affordable, but consider that they end up in the trash, or the oceans.  Think
about whether that toy will really give you enjoyment, or whether it is just
shiny plastic blobs where you have to collect 100 of them.


... Dennis Katsonis
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