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|    Chips Loral to All    |
|    Re: Meet The Next VPOTUS    |
|    09 Aug 24 12:50:02    |
      XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics       XPost: can.politics, can.general       From: loralandclinton@invalid.co              % wrote:       > someone should shoot the idiot              https://nfa.ca/the-firearms-act-and-canadas-first-nations/              People think that the aboriginal peoples have some sort of exemption       regarding the provisions of the Firearms Act. There are minor but       important points involved here, and one gigantic time bomb. I will deal       with the minor points first:              The native peoples do not have any kind of an exemption. C-68’s       Firearms Act section 117(u) authorizes the Governor in Council (a       thinly-disguised Minister of Justice) to issue Orders in Council (with       force of law) “respecting the manner in which any provision of this Act       or the regulations applies to any of the aboriginal peoples of Canada,       and adapting any such provision for the purposes of that application.”       There are several interesting points to be made about that little gem.              First, it may APPEAR to be a provision enabling the government to       discriminate IN FAVOR of aboriginal peoples — but look again. It is       EQUALLY a provision authorizing the government to discriminate AGAINST       the aboriginal peoples. For example, an “aboriginal people” (which can,       for example, be taken to mean one tribe or the residents on one or more       reservations) may block a highway over some dispute regarding land       claims, forest rights, etc. Hey — it HAPPENS. FAs. 117(u) then       apparently authorizes the Minister to revoke every firearms licence and       registration certificate held by any member of that “aboriginal people,”       so that they can be disarmed by the police or army without having to       bother getting a court order.              Note the wording of FAs. 117(u): It does not say, “any aboriginal       person of Canada.” It says, “any of the aboriginal peoples of Canada.”       That allows discrimination between any of the groups forming “aboriginal       peoples” — lawful(?) discrimination on a tribe-by-tribe basis, if one       cares to recognize each tribe as an “aboriginal people.” That, in turn,       opens any attempt to exercise the powers given in FAs. 117(u) to court       action based on the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms – — which       requires that everyone be “equal before and under the law.”              Everyone has the right “to the equal protection and equal benefit of the       law without discrimination, and, in particular, without discrimination       based on RACE, NATIONAL OR ETHNIC ORIGIN, COLOUR, religion, sex, age, or       mental or physical disability [CCRF 15].” Therefore, any attempt to USE       FAs. 117(u) is likely to run head on into Charter conflict for       discrimination based on “race” or “national of ethnic origin” or       “colour.”              Note that FAs. 117(u) CANNOT be used to alter anything that is written       into C-68’s Firearms Act or Criminal Code alterations. An Order in       Council CANNOT alter legislation, it can only do what the legislation       SPECIFICALLY authorizes the Governor in Council (actually, the Minister       of Justice, acting alone or almost alone) to do through Orders in       Council. The CFC and Department of Justice do not seem to have grasped       that basic principle of law.              When the NFA was consulted by the CFC last spring, several proposed       Orders in Council were disclosed to us — OICs that CLEARLY violated that       limitation. That is enough on the SMALL problems built into C-68. The       BIG one is probably going to blow the entire Act out of the water the       first time it is used by a lawyer representing an aboriginal person.              When the government negotiated the James Bay Treaty with the aboriginal       peoples, one of the provisions was that the Treaty would become a part       of the Constitution of Canada. Therefore, any violations of the terms       of that Treaty are unconstitutional — and legislation enacted WHILE       violating that Treaty is void from its day of birth. The Treaty       requires that any legislation that will have any effect on aboriginal       hunting must be presented to and scrutinized by a council set up by the       Treaty itself, BEFORE being presented to Parliament for action.              That was not done — although C-68 clearly DOES heavily affect aboriginal       hunting. During the House Committee hearings on C-68, Reform MP and       Justice Critic Jack Ramsay brought that out very clearly. The       government admitted that it had not done what the Treaty required.              Liberal Chairman Warren Allman refused to allow the Committee to drop       the consideration of Bill C-68 for unconstitutionality, and the       Committee’s Liberal majority voted to ignore the entire problem. That       was an incredible demonstration of arrogance, ignorance and       incompetence. It is going to come back to haunt the Liberals.              The first time an aboriginal person is up on charges under ANY provision       of C-68, his lawyer is going to be able to claim that C-68 was never       legally before the House, therefore could never have been legally       enacted, and it is therefore null and void in its entirety.              I do wonder what the Supreme Court of Canada will do with THAT mess.              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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