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 Message 3205 
 alexander koryagin to BOB KLAHN 
 Re: Clandestine activity is a holy cow o 
 20 Aug 13 10:07:48 
 
Hi, BOB KLAHN!
I read your message from 17.08.2013 23:06


 AK>> Taliban was created by the US as a weapon against the USSR, as
 AK>> well as Bin Laden, who was, one time, a
 BK> Not the Taliban, more Bin Laden's friends. The Taliban started with
 BK> an Afghan Cleric outraged at the corruption of the warlords. His
 BK> group would have been OK if they had brought and end to the
 BK> oppression of the warlords, but instead he changed one oppressor
 BK> for another.

   The Taliban movement traces its origin to the Pakistani-trained
mujahideen in northern Pakistan, during the Soviet war in Afghanistan.
So, The Taliban is just a political personification of this movement
after the war with the USSR and falling Najibullah's government.



 AK>>>> declared before each invasion. The US invaded into Afghanistan
 AK>>>> to catch Bin Laden, the US invaded in Iraq to destroy its
 AK>>>> stockpiles of weapon of mass destruction.
 BK>>> The US invaded Iraq to control the oil. The rest was lies.
 AK>> It is not correct, by a simple reason - Saddam had never refused
 AK>> to sell Iraqi oil for the US. Vice versa - on

 BK> The US did not invade to get the oil, but to control the oil. A
 BK> group called the Project For A New American Century wanted to take
 BK> the oil and use it to break the Saudi control of OPEC. Big oil
 BK> wanted control of the oil also, but not to break Saudi control. Big
 BK> Oil had more power.

   So what was in the result of the war? Does the US control Iraqi oil
now?


 AK>> You said, you don't have a special police force in the US which is
 AK>> trained to disperse people's rallies? I saw
 BK> Not Military.
 AK>> myself how violently were dispersed the people from "Occupy Wall
 AK>> street" movement.

 BK> Those were local police, not military.

   Do you think there is a big difference who disperse people's rallies?
In general, all the forces that participate in it are the state armed
forces, they carry out orders and they have no right to discuss the
orders they get. If the police special forces need help the military
will get involved.

   In general, the coup in Egypt shows us what can happen when the
military and the police are out of public control and replace democracy.

Bye, BOB!
Alexander Koryagin
fido7.debate 2013
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