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 RW> @MSGID: <534D673D.196.2debate@tequilamockingbirdonline.net>
 RW> Greetings Bill!

 BM> -=> Roy Witt wrote to Ward Dossche <=-

 RW>> @MSGID: <534C89ED.6775.2fidonews@tequilamockingbirdonline.net>
 RW>> @REPLY: <534C54A8.6771.2fidonews@tequilamockingbirdonline.net>

 RW> Is this shit necessary^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I just wanted to give you something that you could legitimately complain about.
 

 BM>>> Funny, the American Medical Association and all the doctors on the
 BM>>> site you plagerized seem to agree with me that fertilization can
 BM>>> occur while a woman takes the pill.

 WD>> The pill isn't fail-safe. The wrapper inside the packaging says so.

 RW>> Of course, Bill didn't supply any MDA source to back up his
 RW>> information, so his is a doubtful statement at best. Watch, he'll
 RW>> come up with something from his wiki homepage and call it legit.

 BM> Roy, you need to go back and take a refresher course on reading
 BM> comprehension. IF you got your head out of your ass you'd have seen I
 BM> referenced a doctor on the very site that Tim plagerized,

 RW> Tim didn't plagerize that site, he used " ", nor did you supply a link
 RW> to what you were babbling on about.

 BM>  WebMd and the doctor reiterated my position that the pill is not a
 BM> 100% guarantee the egg won't get fertilized.

 RW> Without a link, this is just blowing in the wind.

Ahhh, you need to review my last message about this.  It's obvious you missed
the links I posted showing both Tim's plagerism and the one where the doctor
states the effectiveness of the pill is not 100% as you state.  Now, being I
know your silly little games, if I go back and show you you'll just say I added
it after the fact so why even give you that opportunity.  I know what I wrote
and it's not my issue if you either can't read or comprehend my words.  Go back
to school.

BTW, simply adding " " to a statement doesn't actually give the author the
credit they deserve.  Either a footnote or a link would do it. Neither of which
Tim used.  Now, funny how you believe him when he didn't use a link but raise
hell with me when I did and you so convientently missed it.  Who's blowing in
the wind now Roy...


 BM> Do you now doubt the words of a learned professional in the field of
 BM> medicine?

 RW> Without a link to the actual statement, coming from you, I would doubt
 RW> that the moon isn't made of cheese if you said so.

Go do your own reasearch then.  Fact still remains taking birth control pills
doesn't guarantee an egg will not get fertilized.  You think differently, show
me a link that states with a 100% guarantee it won't.  You asked for proof, I
gave it.  Now you show me some proof from a board certified physician. 

 RW>> The manufacturers describe what is in their pill, what it does and
 RW>> the theory of how it works to use it to prevent a pregnancy.

 RW>> Planned Parenthood warns that if you don't take your BC pill
 RW>> everyday at the same time of day, 1-in-100 of those who don't may
 RW>> get pregnant each year. Not will, but maybe.

 BM> Oh, now you're quoting planned parenthood.

 RW> And offering a link to what they have to say about it. You haven't and
 RW> you never have.

The only reason you put a link there was due to I called you out on it and this
is your childish attempt at turning the tables.  Not going to work Roy...
you've been outed.

 BM> Guess when they suit your needs you'll use them.

 RW> Since they're of your own ilk, how can you doubt their word?

 BM> How convinent. I'll need to remember that the next time you say
 BM> planned parenthood are just another liberal backed socialistic
 BM> program.

 RW> It is...but you aren't going to say anything against their liberal
 RW> backing or their suggestions on BC because that's, well, you.

I'm sure that's there but I know you just picked and choose what you wanted. 
You talk about odds, most Powerball/Mega Millions has a 1 in 175 million chance
of someone winning yet, people do. 

 RW>> If you follow the manufacturer's instructions, your chances of
 RW>> getting pregnant are nill. Those are pretty good odds in my book.
 RW>> And as they describe the theory, the pill prevents ovulation, as Tim
 RW>> has already said.

 BM> Nill?  The physician

 RW> What physician?

 BM>  said there was a possible 5% chance a woman could become pregnant
 BM> while using the pill.

 RW> To reiterate, when using the pill as prescribed...If you take it
 RW> willy-nilly, then your chances are more than 5% that you will.

 BM> If you further read the link I posted to Tim,

 RW> You didn't post any link, period.

You really are persistant....

 BM> I wonder when you were a machinist if you would have told your boss
 BM> the part you just made had a nill chance of not fitting.

 RW> Been there, done that. Got a partnership on a pattent for my effort.

Congrats... was it by chance?  Afterall, nill chance is in your vocabulary when
it comes to possible fertilization of an egg I figured you rolled that over to
your work.  Tell me something, have you ever thrown a piece of steel away when
you cutting it on a lathe?  Careful how you answer this Roy, because if you say
no you'd be the only one in history.  Your picture should hang in the
Smithstonian.  

 BM> Were/are you that type of machinist Roy? If so, I'd never use you.

 RW> If you want it to be right, you would want to use me as your machinist,
 RW> I'm a perfectionist in that regard. I wouldn't want you as a customer,
 RW> but that's beside the point.


A perfectionist using the word "nill".  

 RW>> www.plannedparenthood.org

 BM>>> You've administered pills ...

 WD>> Actually, what he did without the proper knowledge or training, is
 WD>> to

 RW>> You don't know that, since Tim hasn't said so.

 RW>> I know where Tim worked (Grossmont Hospital in La Mesa, CA or one of
 RW>> their campus') and have had the opportunity to witness such
 RW>> procedures by other 'technicians' in that field.

 RW>> See, in the USA, we have doctors, RN (nurses), LVNs and 'pink
 RW>> ladies' as they were called there because they wore pink outfits and
 RW>> were not of the medical field, just technicians that administered
 RW>> meds among their other duties as such.

 RW>> I'd say that if they can read plain English (if you can call a
 RW>> doctor's writing as such), they're following a Doctor's prescribed
 RW>> medication order for him. Which they are allowed to do by state law.

 WD>> administer a product for which he's not licensed and of which the
 WD>> hormone imbalance can have lethal effects.

 RW>> What Tim did was follow instructions given to him that were in
 RW>> compliance with California state law and his employer. Been there,
 RW>> done that, have the T shirt.

 BM> I agreed with what you said regarding Tim's administering the pills
 BM> according to the physicians orders but the fact remains, the
 BM> possibility of a fertilized egg being expelled due to the
 BM> inhospitality of the uterus,

 RW> Of course, there isn't much possibility of that happening, unless the
 RW> egg was fertilized before she began to take the pill. Once the pill is
 RW> in her system, the hormones in it will stop ovulation.

Wrong again... but as I've been saying in previous posts, your issue with NPD
blinds you from that fact. 


 BM> Tim should have, according to Tim's own beliefs, recused himself due
 BM> to morality grounds according to the 1st Amendment he tosses so
 BM> freely around.

 RW> Since Tim was there and you weren't, he fully knows how the pill works
 RW> and he also knows that issuing that pill to a patient is what the
 RW> doctor ordered, not Tim.

 RW> It's kinda like when your ancestors were told to pay their debt or go
 RW> to debtors prison, they didn't get out of prison until the debt was
 RW> paid. If they fled to America, that didn't excuse the debt. If they
 RW> were found in the colonies, they were sent back to debtors prison. The
 RW> only person who didn't go to debtors prison was the person who handed
 RW> you the goods or money.

What does debtors prison have to do with his morals when it comes to aborting a
fertilized egg? 

 BM> That was my point and it is fact as stated by Tim.  Spin it all you
 BM> like Roy is not going to change the facts.

 RW> Anything that Tim had to say about it is according to what I know as a
 RW> California citizen who has worked with doctors in prescribing meds to
 RW> their patients. It is not up to Tim or I to go against doctor's orders.
 RW> And his employer will enforce that, if he doesn't.

 RW>> The hormone imbalance you speak of is for a doctor to assess and no
 RW>> one else. In any case, the PILL is as safe to use as an aspirin, no
 RW>> license required to administer, just a Doctor's prescribed written
 RW>> order on a patient's chart. The procedure may differ in Belgum, but
 RW>> that's how it works in California.

 BM> I agree.... things maybe different in Belgium.

 RW> You only agree because you know that you've been wrong all along.

Roy Roy Roy.... you oblivious fool.... you really don't have a clue other than
beating your chest thinking you have all the answers.  Tim never quoted his
source, quotes around a statement does not mean shit in the text based world. 
You seem to wish things true when it comes to proving your point that I didn't
use a link when not only did I provide a link for Tim's plagerizism, in the
past I've posted links for your plagerism.  Seek help.  Lord knows I tried to
help steer you in the right direction.

Be well... 




Bill

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