Hello Roy,

On Tue 2012-Nov-27 13:19, Roy Witt (1:387/22) wrote to Richard Webb:

 RW> Agreed, and, as I understand it, the situation has been
 RW> corrected.  Were I the mod in question though I'd explicitly state it
 RW> in my rules what sort of even read-only access is permissible,
 RW> removing all doubt.   as they say .

Roy> You, being a bit closer to the mod, should make that point. The
Roy> problem being, how to enforce read-only access to that link. Any
Roy> downlink, even a 'read-only downlink' can dump the echo onto a point
Roy> address and nobody would be the wiser.

YEs, did make that suggestion, and yes that could be done.
However, if somebody puts it up for public access, i.. on
the web or something it's pretty obvious somebody is
violating one of them thar gentlemens' agreements.


I, for example, when I was feeding Daryl Stout passed the
r19 echoes through to him from rc19 with hwom I connect for
other purposes.  I passed the r14 stuff through except for
14_chat, was always an open echo for users points and
anybody within r14 back in the day.  Then after awhile I
even passed that one through to him without reading it.

The unseen point thing though is an old trick, and when I
took down my system and was pointing off a buddy for awhile
he fed me a lot of sysop restricted echoes as a point, read
only of course.  Then when he went dark 3 months later i was calling ld as a
point to pick up fido traffic from somebody
else as a point, and didn't really want the ld downloads of
anything but certain echoes of particular interest to me.

But, were I mod in question I'd make it pretty explicit what sort of access
was permitted, and what wasn't.  YEs, some
folks might circumvent those restrictions, but most long
time Fido folks won't without good reason.  I told my local
boss node when I first started pointing off him and he was
last man standing for local FIdo bbs that I really wasn't
that interested, and that he was violating some standards of conduct.  HE did
ask permission from the nc for me to have
write access to the netwide sysop echo though.

Regards,
           Richard
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