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|  Message 3571  |
|  Alexander Koryagin to Anton Shepelev  |
|  New Year's Day.  |
|  23 Feb 21 15:51:34  |
 MSGID: 2:221/6.0 60350862 REPLY: 2:221/6.0 60328baa PID: SmapiNNTPd/Linux/IPv6 1.3 20201225 CHRS: LATIN-1 2 TZUTC: 0200 TID: hpt/lnx 1.9.0-cur 2021-02-17 Hi, Anton Shepelev! -> Alexander Koryagin I read your message from 21.02.2021 19:34 AK>> Another problem, as I had said once, is that the Russian language AK>> consists of longer words than English, AS> A language does not consist of words. It merely has them. You may AS> say that the vocabulary consist of words. A machine has details or consists of details? AK>> and because of it a Russian thinks and understands slower. AS> If you are serious, than I disagree. Your conclustion is wrong on AS> so many levels: AS> 1. you ignore the amount of words, AS> 2. it is likely humans to not think entirely in words. AS> 3. learners of English has simlar problems understanding AS> fast Russian speach, e.g.: in this animated detective: AS> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UlN6Zuz5E0 When they (the Russian animators) record sound they very often speed up voices and dialogues. A funny film demands speed and dynamic. Our famous Winnie-the-Poor also speaks quicker than the actor who voiced him. AK>> So, for training hearing skills a Russian should start hearing all AK>> the Russian video show and movies sped up by 1.5-2 times. AS> He or she had better start with listening to slow and clearly AS> articluated English speech, as found, for example, in early sound AS> films. You don't understand -- most Russian people should gain skills in quick word processing if they want to understand quick English speech. Many people know how the words should be pronounced, but it is not enough. AK>> Unfortunately I have no such a device. To be exactly I have it, AK>> but it often freeze after couple of minutes of speeded up AK>> playing. ;-< AS> You mean Youtube? From "Get lamp" -- a great documentary about Youtube, if run in browser, can speed up videos, but I only watch movies and shows recorded on my media player box. After work I use only TV set and I don't want use a computer with youtube. But it is of course only my problem. ;-) Theoretically, now it is a hummer time to buy a new TV set with Internet. AS> interactive fiction -- I know that blind people use text-to-speech AS> converters at what I cannot help designatig an incredibly high rate AS> of fire, but I should never recommend this with real speech, AS> because that way you lose all emotional content. While remastering When my aim is focused on training my speed skills I don't pay too much attention on such details. Besides -- you can watch two time more shows and movies. It is shame to spend time watching serials in Russian, but if you speed them up you waste less time and get more hearing skills. AS> old acoustic recordings of 1900s, where the original RPM was not AS> known and could not be determined by key notes, such as the La at AS> 440 Hz, AML+ determined the correct playback speed by the degree of AS> emotional fidelity -- and never erred as test with reference AS> phonograms showed. IMHO, first, a learner should learn how to hear and understand quick speech. Then he can enjoy emotions. PS: And a spell checker is extremely useful, too. Bye, Anton! Alexander Koryagin english_tutor 2021 --- * Origin: nntp://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/6.0) SEEN-BY: 1/123 90/1 105/81 120/340 123/131 129/305 221/1 6 226/30 SEEN-BY: 227/114 702 229/101 424 426 664 1016 1017 240/1120 1634 1895 SEEN-BY: 240/2100 5138 5411 5832 5853 8001 8002 8005 249/206 317 261/38 SEEN-BY: 280/5003 313/41 317/3 320/219 322/757 331/313 333/808 335/206 SEEN-BY: 335/364 370 342/200 371/52 382/147 2454/119 4500/1 5020/1042 PATH: 221/6 335/364 240/1120 5832 229/426 |
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