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|  Message 3791  |
|  Ardith Hinton to alexander koryagin  |
|  Where does the comma go?  |
|  15 Dec 21 23:56:36  |
 
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CHRS: IBMPC 2
Hi, Alexander! Recently you wrote in a message to Dallas Hinton:
DH> "God Rest Ye Merry, Gentlemen" has been parodied on Twitter.
ak> IMHO, the main problem is not in commas but in some English
ak> verbs that can be translated in great variety of ways. ;-)
|a great variety
Understood. If your dictionaries include phrases like "rest easy" &
"rest assured" that's close to the mark. If they say "rest" means to be still
and/or relaxed... not agitated or troubled... that's also close to the mark.
WRT "rest" as a transitive verb, I might say I need to rest my weary
bones after some physical exertion. This means I'd like to allow or enable my
body to relax for awhile. Years ago some people would have said "God rest his
soul"... now classified as archaic. "God rest you" is listed in our 1971 OED,
but I had to wade through +/- eight pages of detail in small print to find it.
I feel your pain WRT deceptively short & simple words which are used
in various ways. It reminds me of problems I had with the French language. I
see an added complication WRT this song, however. As people become more adept
at reading (e.g.) they learn to group words into phrases. "God rest ye merry"
no longer makes sense to a lot of people our era & some of them try to correct
what they regard as an error in punctuation. These amendments are significant
in terms of performing arts. The OED cites Shakespeare as having written "God
rest you merry, sir." I conclude that those who think the comma belongs after
"merry", as it appears in older versions of the song, are probably right. :-)
--- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+
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