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|  Message 3825  |
|  Alexander Koryagin to Ardith Hinton  |
|  Old stuff  |
|  05 Feb 22 16:58:52  |
 MSGID: 2:221/6.0 61fe90aa REPLY: 1:153/716.0 1fdffb40 PID: SmapiNNTPd/Linux/IPv6 1.3 20211225 EID: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0. CHRS: LATIN-1 2 TZUTC: 0200 TID: hpt/lnx 1.9 2022-01-30 Hi, Ardith Hinton - Alexander Koryagin! I read your message from 05.02.2022 01:26 AK>> Is "the" in "Bill Clinton, the President of United States of AK>> America" correct? AH> The article is optional with words like "president". AH> The definite article is required in "The United States of America" AH> because that is the official name of the country. In the common AH> parlance we often say "the US" or something similar... i.e. AH> retaining the article. "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and AH> Northern Ireland" is treated in the same manner. Colloquially, we AH> often refer to it as "the UK". AH> WRT official titles like "President of the United States", or AH> even "former President of the United States", the article may be AH> left out. Among Fidonetters this title may be abbreviated as "the AH> POTUS". But AFAIK none of them are journalists, who say things AH> like "US President Joe Biden". In such cases they are using the AH> abbreviated name of the country as an adjective. I can't think of AH> anybody else, however, who would actually say that... [grin]. AH> In case my last paragraph left you & others a bit confused, I will AH> share with you my own experience as an actress in an elementary AH> school play. Years ago, when only formal English was allowed in the AH> classroom, one of the lines I memorized was "I'm So-and-So, AH> president of the Ladies' Flower Club." IOW... I regard this usage AH> as well established & therefore have no objection when others AH> employ it in reference to some author, movie director, etc. If I were invented English rules, I put it simpler. The article "the" can be omitted if you are sure that the thing or person, you are speaking about, is unique in general. In other words -- we don't need "the" before "author" from my example because the author of a particular book is unique as a rule. The same with American president, prime minister, head master. So: I went to school to meet with headmaster. Capital of the US is Washington. Composer of "Moon sonata" is Beethoven. After school I went home. Head is part of body. Are there any examples how to disprove my rule? ;-) Bye, Ardith! Alexander Koryagin english_tutor 2022 --- * Origin: nntp://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/6.0) SEEN-BY: 1/123 15/0 30/0 90/1 103/705 105/81 106/201 120/340 123/131 SEEN-BY: 129/305 330 331 153/7715 154/10 218/700 221/1 6 226/30 227/114 SEEN-BY: 229/110 206 317 424 426 664 700 240/1120 5832 266/512 282/1038 SEEN-BY: 301/0 1 101 113 317/3 320/219 322/757 335/364 341/66 342/200 SEEN-BY: 396/45 460/58 712/848 920/1 4500/1 5020/1042 5058/104 PATH: 221/6 301/1 229/426 |
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