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|  Message 4068  |
|  Alexander Koryagin to Gleb Hlebov  |
|  A pie  |
|  07 Dec 23 09:02:46  |
 MSGID: 2:221/6.0 65716e10 REPLY: 2:5023/24.4222 656f0fee PID: SmapiNNTPd/Linux/IPv6 3.0 20231203 NOTE: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0. CHRS: LATIN-1 2 TZUTC: 0200 Hi, Gleb Hlebov! I read your message from 05.12.2023 12:56 AK>> Well, a pie can be cut into portions, but anyway it should AK>> theoretically remained a pie. IMPOV. ;) GH> Sometimes it may not work this way. E. g. talking about food, you GH> can hear something along the lines of: GH> "...Nutella has become out comfort food, we like it with banana or GH> pretzels." Nutella is like ice-cream, it is understandable. out ?-> our banana ?-> bananas GH> Many types of food (besides pie, cake, ice cream, candy etc.) can GH> be referred to as uncountable when served in slices, even if you GH> still think of it as "countable". GH> On the other hand, mentioned as a dish, like a menu item you may GH> order in a cafe or restaurant, it should be referred to as GH> countable: GH> "...They got a cherry pie there that'll kill ya!" GH> So, again, it's complicated. I think that the matter is simpler. When they say in the dictionary that pie is both countable and uncountable in use they just mean that you _can_ put an indefinite article before "pie", or you are free not to put it. The same situation with steak: "I had steak and kidney pie with chips" but probably is also correct "I had a steak and (a) kidney pie with chips" I also suspect that the more the speech is informal the less articles it contains. ;-) Bye, Gleb! Alexander Koryagin english_tutor 2023 --- * Origin: nntp://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/6.0) SEEN-BY: 1/123 10/0 1 15/0 90/1 102/401 103/1 705 105/81 106/201 123/131 SEEN-BY: 128/260 129/305 153/7715 154/10 214/22 218/0 1 215 601 700 SEEN-BY: 218/720 840 850 860 870 880 930 221/1 6 226/30 227/114 229/110 SEEN-BY: 229/112 113 206 307 317 426 428 470 664 700 240/1120 266/512 SEEN-BY: 282/1038 291/111 301/1 113 320/219 322/757 335/364 341/66 SEEN-BY: 341/234 342/200 396/45 460/58 712/848 5020/400 1042 5075/35 PATH: 221/6 301/1 218/700 229/426 |
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