On 09/27/2016 11:14 AM, mark lewis -> rick christian wrote:

 ml> that must have been before Ray Gwinn (yes, the x00 fossil author)
 ml> released SIO for OS/2...


Ummm.. I left in late '99 due to job relocation and some other things...

 ml> yup... AFAIK SIO on OS/2 is the only way one can use the vmodem
protocol...

Well that probably is part of why I never really paid much attention I didn't
do OS2! I was dragged kicking and screaming from my DOS world heavily
customized with 4DOS and FANSI-CONSOLE to winstupper...in the ~ 5 years or so
from that to eXtremely stuPidows.. then I moved to Linux full time via Knoppix
with KDE 3 right before that one went down the Linux Holy Roller route ie: "It
must be open! ! ! "

 ml> to avoid the scanner bots on port 23, choose any other port... you can
 ml> use 3141 if you like... i was just pointing out that vmodem normally
 ml> runs on that port...

Well I was thinking that putting it there might be "correct" since this is
some sort of "VMODEM" but from what it appears this is probably not the same
protocol.

And dosxbox would need to be run as root to get below 1024! And that ain't
happening!

I get plenty of scans on stuff... but since SSH and a select few are the only
ones passed through.. they get bubckious... I chose to leave SSH v. something
else in the off chance I run into things blocking non standard ports which I
have with some VPN services and LAN's.

 ml> so they say ;)

I spend alot of time using them... If I blow up a VM.. no biggie... I go back
to the base image, and go on from there after I triage what went wrong..

Thats why I despise compiling since it takes 3-4-5-x-x- times to try get it
work when the instructions mostly leave out the key things, namely
dependencies..

I don't install anything till I read, read, read, read, then read read read
again, and thats for a DEB!

I need to know what it is going to do to things that could potentially muck up
things.

Once I get things to a stable level, then I will install to physical hardware
if applicable or create a VM and repeat installs from my notes to get error
free operations.

 ml> hahahaha... i'd probably fall back to QEMU from quarterdeck because i
 ml> know it... no clue if it would even work with today's stuff, though...

I am not sure if you need it as DOSbox I think tries to provide a lot of
this...like EMS/XMS etc..there is a lack of info, or info at the level I
prefer on setup and use.

I used QEMU for a long time then TLB came along.. and it ran rings around
QEMU. I got more memory, I think because one of the newer units I built had
one of the needed chipsets that would do some of the extra magic that QEMU
couldn't I was getting like 760K free DOS or something silly and thats with
FANSI-CONSOLE loaded, 4DOS etc...

I think it and Terminate were about the only thing at that time I actually
paid registrations for.. the rest was shareware and lived with its limits like
Silver Xpress and SLMR.

 ml> joho was very forward thinking... frontdoor was the first to offer this
 ml> capability...

That definitely happened after '99 then... or if not I didn't pay attention to
it in the updates.. I used uucp to get news and mail till then..  relocation
brought ISDN, and then finally cable based internet.


 ml> #filegate.net
 ml> #74.167.111.188
 ml> Vquinnspost.nodelist.net
 ml> 000-192.168.99.23

 ml> frontdoor development stopped before the nodelist INA flag was put into
 ml> use so a lot of stuff has to be done manually instead of reading from
 ml> the nodelist unless someone wants to write a tool to convert the
 ml> distributed nodelist to the form that frontdoor can read directly... it
 ml> is easy enough to do


Is there something that outlines what conversions need to be done for FD.. I
think I've found 2.26 and a 2.12 SL's or basically read in the domain names in
the one field and move them to the phone # location in the nodelist sort of
like a FDNODE.txt similar to the binkd list that its little script makes from
the raw nodelist.

I can possibly write a BASH or python script to take nodelist.999 in and spit
out something for FD to read... maybe even PHP as an option..

 ml> and there are still examples using '000-' as their
 ml> areacode to signal that the following numbers are an IPv4 number...

Yeah.. I read that in reading the nodelist notes...but I see mostly
"unpublished" for nearly 90+% of things.. so this conversion would need to be
done.

That clue probably saved me from dropping the experiment when it barfed on the
node list...

 ml> IPv6  is different and requires additional conversions... SIO doesn't do
IPv6

I don't do IPv6 either... that is proof that engineers should not be allowed
to set standards without supervision! :) ;)

And honestly does EVERYTHING on the planet need an IP???? ;)

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