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|  Message 2094  |
|  Michiel van der Vlist to Wilfred van Velzen  |
|  Fmail Compression and Decompression  |
|  22 Aug 23 11:08:57  |
 TID: FMail-W32 2.2.0.0 RFC-X-No-Archive: Yes TZUTC: 0200 CHRS: CP850 2 MSGID: 2:280/5555 64e47ed4 REPLY: 2:280/464 64e376c8 Hello Wilfred, On Monday August 21 2023 16:33, you wrote to me: MvdV>> It is no secret that I am not a member of the "more is better" MvdV>> club. In the POTS age with high cost of data transport MvdV>> "compressed better" was a valid argument. Although even then in MvdV>> the end of the compression evolution the added value was so MvdV>> small that it didn't really matter anymore. Is another one MvdV>> percent of compression efficiency realy worth it. WV> It was way more then 1%... 10%? Even if it was 30% it fades away against the increase in speed. I have seen the modems speeds increase from 300 bps to 30000 bps. A HUNDRED fold increase! What is a mere 30% better compression compared to that. Nowadays with speeds measeured in Mbps or even Gbps isntead of kbps itis completely irrelevant for Fidonet. MvdV>>>> How many in Amiganet still actually use an Amiga? WV>>> Enough... MvdV>> Enough to leep LAH alive? WV> Yes. Hmmm... MvdV>>>> The problem with keeping all these antiquaria, is that you MvdV>>>> also have to support it. This will become increasingly MvdV>>>> difficult when the knowledge evaporates... WV>>> This is true for all of Fidonet technology. Keeping this old WV>>> techniques working is partly what makes it interesting... MvdV>> True but at some point one has to make choices that every MvdV>> museum has to make. What do we keep and what do we drop? I see MvdV>> little value in keeping more then one compression method alive MvdV>> for Fidonet. Yes, it is interesting to keep Fidonet alive. But MvdV>> not ALL of the technology that was ever used. Drop some and MvdV>> focus on keeping the rest alive. WV> Well, in this case it doesn't matter what you think. It's what the WV> AmigaNet users want... ;-) Good point. ;-) WV> And in a museum available "real" space is probably a lot more WV> expensive then available "virtual" space in AmigaNet, which is kind of WV> limitless... The virtual space needed to store the museum pieces may be "limitless", it is certainly not effortless. Once you store a painting in a storage hold, it does not require much attention any more. It can also easely be retrieved in case someone wants to see it. Digital data is different. Without the equipment to read it, it is useless. When storage media become obsolete you have to transfer the data to a new medium. I no longer have the means to read paper tape or punch cards. I could probably make pictures of it and have some smart optical recognition software read it. Floppy disks is more difficult. Compact disk is even more difficult. Long term storage of digital data is not all that easy without constant effort and cost... Cheers, Michiel --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303 * Origin: http://www.vlist.eu (2:280/5555) SEEN-BY: 1/19 123 15/0 16/0 19/37 90/1 103/705 105/81 106/201 123/130 SEEN-BY: 123/131 124/5016 129/305 142/104 153/757 7715 154/10 203/0 SEEN-BY: 218/700 221/0 6 226/30 227/114 229/110 112 113 206 307 317 SEEN-BY: 229/426 428 470 550 664 700 240/1120 5411 5832 5853 266/512 SEEN-BY: 280/464 5003 5006 5555 282/1038 291/111 292/854 8125 301/1 SEEN-BY: 310/31 317/3 320/119 219 319 2119 322/0 757 326/101 341/66 SEEN-BY: 341/234 342/200 396/45 423/120 460/58 633/280 712/848 770/1 SEEN-BY: 2454/119 5019/40 5020/400 5075/35 PATH: 280/5555 464 240/5832 320/219 229/426 |
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