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Hi Vitaliy,

On 2024-03-09 12:49:34, you wrote to me:

 WvV>> Yesterday I did some experimenting with the latest golded (commit:
 WvV>> "call setlocale() before initscr() (#86)"), trying different ways to
 WvV>> start golded and different golded xlat configurations. I found 2
 WvV>> setups that work for me, so the messages with pseudo graphics in the
 WvV>> STATS area look ok:

 WvV>> My golded.cfg for both:

 WvV>> include charsets.cfg

 WvV>> XLATIMPORT CP437
 WvV>> XLATLOCALSET CP850
 WvV>> XLATEXPORT CP850

 VA> Do not use xlatexport cp850. This parameter is used to select charset
which
 VA> will be used when you write messages to message base. Unless you really
 VA> want cp850. I assume you want to have cp437 there.

My terminal uses cp850, so it's what I write my messages in. If I translate it
to cp437, it will possibly loose some characters that are not supported in
both. So I think I want it. ;-)

 WvV>> And starting golded in a local Konsole terminal "TERM=xterm" with
 WvV>> the default charset set to utf-8:

 WvV>> # sudo -u fido LANG=en_EN.CP850 luit -encoding 'CP850'
 WvV>> /usr/local/bin/golded -f

 VA> If you use luit - than having xterm in UTF-8 is correct.

 WvV>> And in the same kind of terminal but with the default charset set to
 WvV>> cp850, this one works:

 WvV>> # sudo -u fido LANG=en_US.CP850 /usr/local/bin/golded -f

 VA> This is correct commandline to if you have your terminal in cp850. Just
 VA> choose what works better for you. Probably luit and terminal in UTF-8 is
 VA> most convenient.

I'll see after I have tested with putty...

 WvV>> I will still have to test these in a putty terminal later during the
 WvV>> coming week.

 VA> Putty will work fine. Only I suggest you to change terminal type in putty
 VA> from xterm (they use if by default)

I think it's set to 'linux' in putty.

 VA> to putty or putty-256color. It's in Connection->Data section.

Ok, I'll try that.

 WvV>> And messages which have utf-8 characters, like the ones from Michiel
 WvV>> in the UTF area, don't display properly (of course). I did try
 WvV>> adding:

 WvV>> XLATCHARSET UTF-8 CP850 utf8_850.chs

 WvV>> But that didn't help. Of course only a small subset of utf-8
 WvV>> characters can be displayed with cp850...

 VA> Golded cannot read from UTF-8. There is no Unicode support. You must use
 VA> another editor or GoldEd with external editor to work with Unicode.

 VA> It may convert from one-byte charsets to UTF-8, but not vise versa.

Isn't this for incoming messages in utf-8, to show them in your local charset,
as far as possible?


Bye, Wilfred.

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