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 Message 4423 
 Dan Clough to Michiel van der Vlist 
 Re: New rule 
 26 Jul 25 08:37:22 
 
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-=> Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Nick Boel <=-

 NB> I think at this point applications are accepted as long as applicants
 NB> can make a binkp connection, and send a netmail.

 MvV> Yes that seems to be the case. But once they are accepted, they are
 MvV> seldom checked again. If checked, only for a responding server, not for
 MvV> responding to netmail. So we have many ghost systems in the nodelist...

I'd say that is the fault of the NC.  There are no dead nodes in my Net.

 MvV> Still... As I mentioned before, when promoting IPv6 in Fidonet I
 MvV> sometimes run into a brick wall. The first brick wall is that of
 MvV> denial. No, denial is not a river in Egypt. (Roy Witt) IPv6 is a hype,
 MvV> there is noo need for it, IPv4 is functioning well and will remain to
 MvV> do so, if not for the rest of the century, then at least for the coming
 MvV> decades.

Is there anything in the above paragraph that isn't true?

That's correct, it's all true and factual.

 MvV> IPv4 exhaustion may not be a serious problem for the incumbents in
 MvV> parts of the world where IPv4 was historically issued as if it would
 MvV> last forever. But for newcomers getting enough IPv4 to give all their
 MvV> potential customers a globally routable IPv4 address is a serious
 MvV> problem. So serious that some of the newcomers in the fast gowing fibre
 MvV> glass sector here in Europe have stopped doing it.

So..... here you are talking about "newcomer" ISP's?  That doesn't have 
anything to do with individuals or FidoNet sysops.  Are you trying to 
base your whole argument on the problems faced by a "new ISP company"?  
I mean, how many of those are there....?  Nothing to do with FidoNet.



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