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 Message 1639 
 mark lewis to Rick Christian 
 Bug Ticket #6 
 10 Nov 16 11:17:54 
 
10 Nov 16 08:44, you wrote to me:

 ml>> which RFC? CAPABILITIES is not required by RFC977 or by RFC-2980...
 ml>> JAMNNTPd doesn't suppport 3977, 4643, or 4644... someone has gotten
 ml>> something mixed up somewhere... JAMNNTPd is still a Model T... it is
 ml>> not a Lexus... you can have any color you want as long as it is
 ml>> black...

 RC> You repsonded that the client should send CAPABILITIES and then take
 RC> action based on that list on what to do.

correct but only on a limited basis... to be truely right, they should issue
HELP and see if CAPABILITIES is even listed... if it is /then/ issue
CAPABILITIES and see what those results are... if MODE-READER exists in that
output, /then/ issue it and be happy... anything else is assuming something
not in evidence and one is explicitly told that with a 500 code... too many
are not learning to crawl before they walk... you must start at the beginning
and take each step as necessary to reach the next level... cheating and taking
shortcuts hurts everyone...

 RC> Which will I agree with,

ok...

 RC> it doesn't seem to me that ANY client does that.. Maybe there are some
 RC> that do...

there's a lot of shortcut shit out there... too many believe that the internet
has brought a lot of new stuff when in fact all that has happened is that old
stuff is simply being used like it always has and the users don't have the
first clue because their emperor has no clothes and they're too ignorant to
understand why... you took a shortcut when you assumed that JAMNNTPd supportes
RFC-3977 when it doesn't and never purported to do so...

 RC> on Linux you pretty much have Pan, KNode, and thunderturkey, and I
 RC> guess TIN if you stick to a CLI.

there are quite a few news clients available... Cone, Gemini, Gnus, GRN,
KLibido, Knews, KNode, krn, Lucy, Mahogany, SeaMonkey, Thunderbird, Newega,
NewsFlex, Newsleader, NN, PAN, PINE, PNNTP, Post Office, Pyne, rn, SkateNews,
skim, slrn, Sylpheed, tass, TIN, trn, Trulsnews, XRN, and xvnews...

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it
wrong...
... Stop and smell the roses and sooner or later, you'll inhale a bee.
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