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On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 03:12:22 +0300, Nil Alexandrov -> Nicholas Boel wrote:

 NB>> Thanks for getting the ball rolling. You made me get off my ass
 NB>> figure out github. I had only known 'clone' and 'pull' until
 NB>> recently.

 NA> It is never late to learn new things, especially if you are coming
 NA> from CVS or SVN or whatever world. Cause the whole world is now on
 NA> git as an industry standard.

I didn't come from CVS or SVN, I came from never really programming before, so
never had anything I needed to 'commit', 'push', 'rebase', etc. It was just a
bit of a learning curve to go in the opposite direction from just being an end
user to a maintainer.

 NB>> I have forked them both, and they are currently matching each
 NB>> with patches and features. Please check the CHANGELOG to see
 NB>> what's been done:

 NB>> https://github.com/axxisd/jamnntpd
 NB>> https://github.com/axxisd/smapinntpd

 NA> Ah, it is not about repo anymore, it is more about a commitment to be
 NA> a maintainer for both projects. :-)

Kind of, I guess. The code hasn't been touched since like 2013 (Maybe some
spelling errors and dates changed till about 2016). So my commitment is really
only to myself, but may as well share it since they both fix quite a few
things that were outstanding bugs.

 NA> Though, it would be more fun if you can merge them in a way that
 NA> there is a #ifdef use SMAPI or jamlib, cause the rest should be
 NA> exactly the same. As a sanity check, if you process NNTP requests
 NA> differently, then you are basically failed. This is the same code
 NA> which had forked worked at some point and later continued in a
 NA> separate directions.

First, I don't think there is really any good reason for an option, as smapi
supports JAM, Squish, and MSG formats, and is far more up to date than jamlib.
Also, jamlib isn't even 64bit compatible.

Second, it would probably require a LOT more than just an #ifdef. Both
programs are definitely *not* the same as far as code goes. They're similar,
but quite a bit different at the same time. The most recent feature I added to
Smapinntpd first, and when I ported it over to Jamnntpd it wasn't as easy as I
had thought it would be. Then again, I don't really consider myself a
programmer, but it definitely wasn't just a direct copy/paste. Some lines
needed to be changed completely (usually lines utilizing jamlib or smapi, of
course).

For now, if I add a feature to one, I will most likely add it to the other as
well. Then I will make sure to try to fix my mistakes and typos. :)

- Jamlib working on 64bit without the -m32 option would be nice.

- Including smapi with smapinntpd and it all compiling together in one shot
would also be nice (I tried once already, and failed), so one doesn't have to
go out of their way to install dependencies. I will try this again at some
point.

It's a fun little project to cure some times of boredom, that's for sure.

Regards,
Nick

... "Take my advice, I don't use it anyway."
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