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NOTE: tin/2.6.4-20241224 ("Helmsdale") (Linux/6.12.7-arch1-1 (x86_64))
Hey All!

The latest release of tin (v2.6.4) now does not work with Smapinntpd or
Jamnntpd (the previous release did), and I'm not sure why just yet. It gets
the groups as well as displays the number of new messages, subscribes, etc,
but when you try to view the list of articles it shows a blank screen and
marks all messages read when you back out of the article list.

This began within the past year of tin snapshots, but I couldn't figure out
which one, since snapshots were always replaced with new ones, and the code
isn't up on github or anything. I waited to report anything until there was an
actual public release to see if anything would change during that time, and it
hasn't.

I haven't been able to view or create any error logs yet, except that "Xref"
isn't used by the server which may slow things down in tin (I don't think
that's the problem since the old version reported this, also), and this new
version does indeed work fine with Synchronet's NNTP server, as I'm using that
to post this message.

slrn (hasn't been updated in awhile) and Thunderbird (who's NNTP code probably
hasn't been touched in awhile, either) both work fine with Smapinntpd/Jamnntpd
still. So something has changed in tin, but I think it's safe to guess the
problem probably lies in Smapinntpd/Jamnntpd's aged code, since the developers
of tin are _very_ keen and strict to the standards they follow, and
Smapinntpd/Jamnntpd was basically created for Fidonet-specific usage.

If anyone cares to try it out and possibly help debug, the latest version can
be found at http://tin.org and will need to be built for whatever platform
you're going to use it on.

Regards,
Nick

... He who laughs last, thinks slowest.
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