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 Re: Old computer - What version of Ubunt 
 05 Mar 07 15:40:36 
 
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From: Anthony Edwards 
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.ubuntu
Subject: Re: Old computer - What version of Ubuntu should I use?
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 20:40:35 -0000
Organization: Customer of Nildram Ltd
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On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:56:00 -0700, ray  wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:47:25 +0000, Chris wrote:
>
>> I was given an old computer and have built it into our settee, with a 
>> fifteen-inch TFT monitor on a swinging arm - so that you can sit on the 
>> settee and swing the monitor in front of you.
>> (I realise this is madness - but it is rather fun!)
>> 
>> It runs XP very well - but I'm wondering whether it would take Ubuntu.
>> 
>> Pentium II  400MHz  20GB HDD  384 RAM
>> Wireless usb dongle Netgear WPN111
>
> It would "take Ubuntu". It would not run it in a manner you would
> appreciate.

I disagree.  I have Ubuntu 6.06.1 running perfectly well, including the
default Gnome desktop, on the following hardware:

        ttf-tamil-fonts
libgnome2-vfs-perl               ttf-telugu-fonts
libgnomebt0                      ttf-thai-tlwg
libgnomecanvas2-0                ubuntu-artwork
libgnomecanvas2-common           ubuntu-base
libgnomecanvasmm-2.6-1c2a        ubuntu-desktop
libgnomecups1.0-1                ubuntu-docs
libgnomecupsui1.0-1c2a           ubuntu-keyring
libgnome-desktop-2               ubuntu-minimal
libgnome-keyring0                ubuntu-sounds
libgnome-mag2                    ubuntu-standard
libgnome-menu2                   ucf
libgnomemm-2.6-1c2a              udev
libgnome-pilot2                  unattended-upgrades
libgnomeprint2.2-0               unixodbc
libgnomeprint2.2-data            unzip
libgnomeprintui2.2-0             update-manager
libgnomeprintui2.2-common        update-notifier
libgnome-speech3                 usbutils
libgnomeui-0                     usplash
libgnomeui-common                util-linux
libgnomeuimm-2.6-1c2a            vbetool
libgnomevfs2-0                   videolan-doc
libgnomevfs2-bin                 viewres
libgnomevfs2-common              vim
libgnomevfs2-extra               vim-common
libgnome-vfsmm-2.6-1c2a          vim-runtime
libgnucrypto-java                vino
libgnutls12                      vlc
libgpg-error0                    vlc-plugin-alsa
libgphoto2-2                     vnc-common
libgphoto2-port0                 w32codecs
libgpmg1                         w3m
libgpod0                         wamerican
libgsf-1-113                     wbritish
libgsf-1-common                  wget
libgsm1                          whiptail
libgstreamer0.10-0               whois
libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0  wireless-tools
libgtk2.0-0                      workrave
libgtk2.0-bin                    wpasupplicant
libgtk2.0-common                 wvdial
libgtk2-perl                     wxvlc
libgtkhtml2-0                    x11-common
libgtkhtml3.8-15                 x11perf
libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a                xauth
libgtksourceview1.0-0            xbase-clients
libgtksourceview-common          xbiff
libgtkspell0                     xcalc
libgtop2-7                       xclipboard
libgucharmap4                    xclock
libguile-ltdl-1                  xconsole
libgutenprint2                   xcursorgen
libgutenprintui2-1               xcursor-themes
libhal1                          xditview
libhal-storage1                  xdpyinfo
libhfsp0                         xdriinfo
libhsqldb-java                   xev
libice6                          xeyes
libicu34                         xf86dga
libid3-3.8.3c2a                  xfd
libid3tag0                       xfonts-100dpi
libidl0                          xfonts-75dpi
libidn11                         xfonts-base
libieee1284-3                    xfontsel
libijs-0.35                      xfonts-scalable
libisc11                         xfonts-utils
libisccc0                        xfsprogs
libisccfg1                       xgamma
libiso9660-4                     xgc
libiw28                          xhost
libjasper-1.701-1                xine-ui
libjaxp1.2-java                  xinit
libjessie-java                   xitk
libjline-java                    xkbutils
libjpeg62                        xkeyboard-config
libklibc                         xkill
libkpathsea4                     xload
libkrb53                         xlogo
liblaunchpad-integration0        xlsatoms
liblcms1                         xlsclients
libldap2                         xlsfonts
liblircclient0                   xmag
liblocale-gettext-perl           xman
liblpint-bonobo0                 xmessage
libltdl3                         xml-core
liblwres9                        xmodmap
liblzo1                          xmore
libmad0                          xpdf
libmagic1                        xpdf-common
libmagick9                       xpdf-reader
libmdbtools                      xpdf-utils
libmetacity0                     xpmutils
libmng1                          xprop
libmodplug0c2                    xrandr
libmotif3                        xrdb
libmpcdec3                       xrefresh
libmpeg2-4                       xresprobe
libmusicbrainz4c2a               xrgb
libmysqlclient15off              xsane
libnautilus-burn3                xsane-common
libnautilus-extension1           xscreensaver-data
libncurses5                      xscreensaver-gl
libncursesw5                     xserver-xorg
libneon25                        xserver-xorg-core
libnet1                          xserver-xorg-driver-all
libnetcdf3                       xserver-xorg-driver-apm
libnewt0.51                      xserver-xorg-driver-ark
libnl1-pre6                      xserver-xorg-driver-ati
libnm-util0                      xserver-xorg-driver-chips
libnotify1                       xserver-xorg-driver-cirrus
libnspr4                         xserver-xorg-driver-cyrix
libnss3                          xserver-xorg-driver-dummy
libogg0                          xserver-xorg-driver-fbdev
liboil0.3                        xserver-xorg-driver-glint
libopal-2.2.0                    xserver-xorg-driver-i128
libopencdk8                      xserver-xorg-driver-i740
libopenobex-1.0-0                xserver-xorg-driver-i810
liborbit2                        xserver-xorg-driver-imstt
libpam0g                         xserver-xorg-driver-mga
libpam-foreground                xserver-xorg-driver-neomagic
libpam-modules                   xserver-xorg-driver-newport
libpam-runtime                   xserver-xorg-driver-nsc
libpanel-applet2-0               xserver-xorg-driver-nv
libpango1.0-0                    xserver-xorg-driver-rendition
libpango1.0-common               xserver-xorg-driver-s3
libpaper1                        xserver-xorg-driver-s3virge
libparted1.6-13                  xserver-xorg-driver-savage
libpcap0.7                       xserver-xorg-driver-siliconmotion
libpcap0.8                       xserver-xorg-driver-sis
libpcre3                         xserver-xorg-driver-sisusb
libperl5.8                       xserver-xorg-driver-tdfx
libpisock8                       xserver-xorg-driver-tga
libpisync0                       xserver-xorg-driver-trident
libpng12-0                       xserver-xorg-driver-tseng
libpoppler1                      xserver-xorg-driver-v4l
libpoppler1-glib                 xserver-xorg-driver-vesa
libpopt0                         xserver-xorg-driver-vga
libportaudio0                    xserver-xorg-driver-via
libpq4                           xserver-xorg-driver-vmware
libpt-1.10.0                     xserver-xorg-driver-voodoo
libpt-plugins-alsa               xserver-xorg-input-all
libpt-plugins-v4l                xserver-xorg-input-elographics
libpt-plugins-v4l2               xserver-xorg-input-evdev
libqthreads-12                   xserver-xorg-input-kbd
libraptor1                       xserver-xorg-input-mouse
librasqal0                       xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
libraw1394-5                     xserver-xorg-input-wacom
librdf0                          xset
libreadline5                     xsetmode
librecode0                       xsetpointer
librsvg2-2                       xsetroot
librsvg2-common                  xsltproc
libsane                          xsm
libsasl2                         xstdcmap
libsasl2-modules                 xterm
libscim8c2a                      xtrap
libscrollkeeper0                 x-ttcidfont-conf
libsdl1.2debian                  xutils
libsdl1.2debian-alsa             xvidtune
libselinux1                      xvinfo
libsepol1                        xvncviewer
libservlet2.3-java               xwd
libsexy2                         x-window-system-core
libshout3                        xwininfo
libsigc++-2.0-0c2a               xwud
libslang2                        yelp
libslp1                          zenity
libsm6                           zip
libsmbclient                     zlib1g
anthony@daptop:/usr/share/doc$ cd workrave/
anthony@daptop:/usr/share/doc/workrave$ ls
changelog.Debian.gz  changelog.gz  copyright  NEWS.gz  README
README.Debian
anthony@daptop:/usr/share/doc/workrave$ less README
anthony@daptop:/usr/share/doc/workrave$ cd
anthony@daptop:~$ which workrave 
/usr/bin/workrave
anthony@daptop:~$ catfishssh 
anthony@catfish's password: 
Linux catfish 2.6.15-28-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Feb 1 15:51:56 UTC 2007 i686
GNU/Linux

The programs included with the Ubuntu system are free software;
the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.

Ubuntu comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by
applicable law.
Last login: Mon Mar  5 18:23:28 2007
anthony@catfish:~$ cd .mozilla/firefox/hoomtjrv.default/
anthony@catfish:~/.mozilla/firefox/hoomtjrv.default$ ls
bookmarkbackups    compreg.dat       formhistory.dat  search.rdf
bookmarks.bak      cookies.txt       history.dat      secmod.db
bookmarks.html     defaults.ini      hostperm.1       signons2.txt
Cache              downloads.rdf     install.log      xpti.dat
cert8.db           extensions        key3.db          XUL.mfasl
chrome             extensions.cache  localstore.rdf
compatibility.ini  extensions.ini    mimeTypes.rdf
components.ini     extensions.rdf    prefs.js
anthony@catfish:~/.mozilla/firefox/hoomtjrv.default$ scp bookmarks.html
anthony@yoyo.org:.
anthony@yoyo.org's password: 
bookmarks.html                                100%  658KB  36.6KB/s
00:18    
anthony@catfish:~/.mozilla/firefox/hoomtjrv.default$ exit
logout
Connection to catfish closed.
anthony@daptop:~$ cd .mozilla/firefox/
anthony@daptop:~/.mozilla/firefox$ ls
hoomtjrv.default  pluginreg.dat  profiles.ini
anthony@daptop:~/.mozilla/firefox$ cd hoomtjrv.default/
anthony@daptop:~/.mozilla/firefox/hoomtjrv.default$ ls
bookmarkbackups    components.ini    extensions.ini   mimeTypes.rdf
bookmarks.bak      compreg.dat       extensions.rdf   prefs.js
bookmarks.html     cookies.txt       formhistory.dat  search.rdf
Cache              defaults.ini      history.dat      secmod.db
cert8.db           downloads.rdf     hostperm.1       signons2.txt
chrome             extensions        key3.db          xpti.dat
compatibility.ini  extensions.cache  localstore.rdf   XUL.mfasl
anthony@daptop:~/.mozilla/firefox/hoomtjrv.default$ rm bookmarks.html 
anthony@daptop:~/.mozilla/firefox/hoomtjrv.default$ scp
anthony@yoyo.org:bookmarks.html .
The authenticity of host 'yoyo.org (193.110.91.2)' can't be established.
RSA key fingerprint is 18:aa:d1:89:29:45:6d:39:02:16:a7:42:4c:ee:c8:c3.
Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes
Warning: Permanently added 'yoyo.org' (RSA) to the list of known hosts.
anthony@yoyo.org's password: 
bookmarks.html                                100%  658KB  54.9KB/s
00:12    
anthony@daptop:~/.mozilla/firefox/hoomtjrv.default$ ls -ltr
total 2568
-rw-r--r-- 1 anthony anthony    752 2005-06-05 15:08 search.rdf
-rw-r--r-- 1 anthony anthony     24 2005-09-30 10:53 defaults.ini
-rw-r--r-- 1 anthony anthony     24 2005-09-30 10:53 components.ini
drwxr-xr-x 2 anthony anthony   4096 2006-02-24 15:38 extensions
-rw------- 1 anthony anthony  16384 2006-02-24 15:38 secmod.db
drwxr-xr-x 2 anthony anthony   4096 2006-02-24 16:35 chrome
-rw------- 1 anthony anthony    136 2006-04-16 14:16 hostperm.1
-rw-r--r-- 1 anthony anthony  16246 2006-08-14 12:31 mimeTypes.rdf
-rw------- 1 anthony anthony  13028 2007-03-02 23:49 signons2.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 anthony anthony    325 2007-03-03 14:42 downloads.rdf
-rw-r--r-- 1 anthony anthony    126 2007-03-05 19:00 compatibility.ini
-rw-r--r-- 1 anthony anthony  91657 2007-03-05 19:00 xpti.dat
-rw-r--r-- 1 anthony anthony   2008 2007-03-05 19:00 extensions.rdf
-rw-r--r-- 1 anthony anthony    184 2007-03-05 19:00 extensions.ini
-rw-r--r-- 1 anthony anthony    204 2007-03-05 19:00 extensions.cache
-rw-r--r-- 1 anthony anthony 122298 2007-03-05 19:00 compreg.dat
drwx------ 2 anthony anthony   4096 2007-03-05 19:00 bookmarkbackups
drwxr-xr-x 2 anthony anthony   4096 2007-03-05 19:13 Cache
-rw------- 1 anthony anthony  12539 2007-03-05 19:13 cookies.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 anthony anthony 738302 2007-03-05 19:17 XUL.mfasl
-rwxr-xr-x 1 anthony anthony  35514 2007-03-05 19:17 prefs.js
-rw-r--r-- 1 anthony anthony  29524 2007-03-05 19:17 localstore.rdf
-rw------- 1 anthony anthony  16384 2007-03-05 19:17 key3.db
-rw-r--r-- 1 anthony anthony 129590 2007-03-05 19:17 history.dat
-rw-r--r-- 1 anthony anthony   5517 2007-03-05 19:17 formhistory.dat
-rw------- 1 anthony anthony  65536 2007-03-05 19:17 cert8.db
-rw-r--r-- 1 anthony anthony 556740 2007-03-05 19:17 bookmarks.bak
-rw-r--r-- 1 anthony anthony 674185 2007-03-05 19:19 bookmarks.html
anthony@daptop:~/.mozilla/firefox/hoomtjrv.default$ cd
anthony@daptop:~$ catfishssh 
anthony@catfish's password: 
Linux catfish 2.6.15-28-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Feb 1 15:51:56 UTC 2007 i686
GNU/Linux

The programs included with the Ubuntu system are free software;
the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.

Ubuntu comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by
applicable law.
Last login: Mon Mar  5 19:15:02 2007 from 192.168.0.11
anthony@catfish:~$ w
 19:20:45 up 59 min,  5 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.14
USER     TTY      FROM              LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
anthony  :0       -                18:23   ?xdm?  18.55s  0.34s
x-session-manag
anthony  pts/0    :0.0             18:28   50:27m  0.12s  0.12s bash
anthony  pts/1    :0.0             18:30   45:12m  0.13s  0.13s bash
anthony  pts/2    192.168.0.11     19:20    1.00s  0.12s  0.00s w
anthony  pts/3    :0.0             19:15    5:08m  0.11s  0.11s bash
anthony@catfish:~$ paraslrn 
slrn 0.9.8.1pl1 [2005-02-17]

Reading startup file /etc/news/slrn.rc.
Reading startup file .paraslrnrc.
Using newsrc file /home/anthony/.jnewsrc-para for server
news.buzzing-bumblebee.com.
Connecting to host news.buzzing-bumblebee.com ...
Connected to host.  Posting ok.
Checking for new groups ...
Checking news via active file ...
anthony@catfish:~$ mutt
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.ubuntu
From: Anthony Edwards 
Subject: Re: Old computer - What version of Ubuntu should I use?
References: 

Organization: Customer of Nildram Ltd
Reply-To: anthony@catfish.nildram.co.uk
Followup-To:

On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:56:00 -0700, ray  wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:47:25 +0000, Chris wrote:
>
>> I was given an old computer and have built it into our settee, with a
>> fifteen-inch TFT monitor on a swinging arm - so that you can sit on
>> the
>> settee and swing the monitor in front of you.
>> (I realise this is madness - but it is rather fun!)
>>
>> It runs XP very well - but I'm wondering whether it would take
>> Ubuntu.
>>
>> Pentium II  400MHz  20GB HDD  384 RAM
>> Wireless usb dongle Netgear WPN111
>
> It would "take Ubuntu". It would not run it in a manner you would
> appreciate. 

I disagree.  I have Ubuntu 6.06.1 running perfectly well, including the
default GNOME desktop, on the following hardware:

http://www.yoyo.org/~anthony/ultra_hardware.html

--
Anthony Edwards
anthony@catfish.nildram.co.uk
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