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 jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com to All 
 Re: Ubuntu machine on the way Friday 
 07 Mar 07 03:48:58 
 
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From: Joe LaVigne 
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.ubuntu
Subject: Re: Ubuntu machine on the way Friday
Date: 7 Mar 2007 08:48:58 GMT
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On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 04:21:32 +0000, Josiah Jenkins wrote:

> Whilst perusing Usenet on 6 Mar 2007 23:26:51 GMT, I read these words
> from Joe LaVigne  :
>>On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 12:08:44 +0000, Josiah Jenkins wrote:
>>> Whilst perusing Usenet on Mon, 05 Mar 2007 21:28:53 -0800, I read
>>> these words from NoStop  :
>>>>Pete wrote:
>>>>
> 
>>>>
>>With a deb (or rpm) package, you have no user prompts.
>> Everything goes where it is supposed to.
> 
> Is that good or bad ?

Good.  The filesystem has a specific structure, and everything has it's
place.

>>
>>You can reset the root password if you wish, but it is not necessary. 
>>Right click on "Applications", click "Edit Menus", click on
>>"System Tools" in the left pane, put a checkmark next to
>>"root terminal" in the right, close the window.
> 
> Thanks, hadn't got around to random left-clicks to
> see what, if anything, happens.
>>> 
>>> I've been trying to change 'permissions' on an .ogg file.
>>> Even as sudo or gksudo and using a tag managing program,
>>> I still can't find out how in Ubuntu . . . 'permission refused'.
>>> Or you get it changed but it won't save !!!
>>
>>Copy the file to your hard drive.
>>Use sudo chown username to give yourself ownership of the
>>file, then you should be able to do anything you want.
>>You cannot change permissions or ownership on a CD.
> 
> I hadthem on the HD, I copied about 15 ogg files into a
> directory in /home to mess around with.

But did you change the ownership after you copied them?  When you copy a
file, it copies the attributes as well.  Do a ls -al and paste the info
here...

> 
> All my music files (just over 7,000) are in mp3 format
> on an external hard drive.
>>> 
>>ogg is not a filesystem.  It is a music file type, similar to MP3,
> 
> You're correct, it's a file type.
> As mp3 is a type within the mpeg 'family' of files.
> (Moving Picture Experts Group Audio Layer 3)
> 
> I knew of the ogg format but in fifteen years have never
> seen an ogg file used on a Windows system. 

I have.  They are less common, though.  They seem to have come into
existence mostly because MP3's were not easily supported in older Linux
systems, due to the closed source and copyright.

>>> 
>>> (I've even managed to get a 'chocolate screen of death'
>>
>>In many years using Linux in one form or another, I have
>>had a few lockups (almost always hardware related),
>>but never seen such a screen.
> 
> It was after changing a file following 'advice' I was given.
> (not here, I hasten to add)
> I got a totally blank desktop (no icons or toolbar)
> and had to re-install to get it back to normal. 

I'll bet that with a little digging, you could have fixed it without a
rebuild...
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