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   From: glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de   
      
   On Sun, 2025-10-26 at 20:12 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:   
   > On Oct 26, Tony Rodriguez  wrote:   
   >    
   > > Why not support power 8 beyond 2028? It is still a good system and    
   > > supports newer little endian.   
   >    
   > Because that's 15 years and Debian's purpose is not to enable    
   > retrocomputing projects.   
      
   I don't think that POWER8 would be considered retrocomputing given the fact   
   that it's just three years older than POWER9. The first x86_64 CPUs were   
   released in 2003 and are still supported by Debian.   
      
   If hardware released between 2014 and 2022 (last POWER8 server sold is   
   considered   
   retro, then the original x86_64 hardware would be considered ancient, wouldn't   
   it?   
      
   While POWER8 hardware reached EOL at IBM last year, I don't think this should   
   be   
   decisive criteria. You can also argue that quickly raising baselines will cause   
   more e-waste.   
      
   > I think that waldi's proposal is quite reasonable.   
   >    
   > Next year probably we should also talk about RISC-V, when hopefully it    
   > will be more clear what hardware will be available.   
      
   Well, Ubuntu raised the baseline to RV23 before there was even any hardware   
   available   
   meaning that their upcoming RISC-V releases will run on QEMU only. I don't   
   think that   
   was a very clever move. In the end, software should support use case and not   
   just be   
   pet projects of developers.   
      
   Adrian   
      
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