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|    Message 27,063 of 28,835    |
|    Sean Whitton to All    |
|    Bug#1127616: developers-reference: shoul    |
|    10 Feb 26 16:00:01    |
      XPost: linux.debian.devel, linux.debian.policy       From: spwhitton@spwhitton.name              Package: developers-reference       Severity: important       X-debbugs-cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, git-debpush@packages.debian.org              I made the following change to dev-ref, but it was reverted. So with       this bug I request review from the Developer's Reference maintainers.       I didn't think there is anything controversial about this, but please       let me know what you think needs changing.              Brief rationale: This section of dev-ref is for newcomers.       So I changed it to recommend git-debpush, because that is the thing they       are most likely to want to use.              --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---       diff --git a/source/pkgs.rst b/source/pkgs.rst       index 41d0147..65b6252 100644       --- a/source/pkgs.rst       +++ b/source/pkgs.rst       @@ -347,61 +347,90 @@ Uploading a package        Source and binary uploads        ---------------------------------------------------------------       ----------------------------------------------------------------              -Each upload to Debian consists of a signed ``.changes`` file describing       -the requested change to the archive, plus the source and binary package       -files that are referenced by the ``.changes`` file.       -       -If possible, the version of a package that is uploaded should be a       -source-only changes file.       -These are typically named ``*_source.changes``, and reference the source       -package, but no binary ``.deb`` or ``.udeb`` packages.       -All of the corresponding architecture-dependent and architecture-independent       -binary packages, for all architectures, will be built automatically by       -the build daemons in a controlled and predictable environment       +The Debian Archive distributes both source code and the binary packages built       +from that source code. In the usual case, you supply the source code and the       +build daemons supply the binary packages, and the Debian Archive software is       +responsible for associating them with each other based on packaging metadata.       +The act of supplying new source code in this way is called a *source-only       +upload*.       +       +The build daemons then perform corresponding *binary-only uploads*. The       +advantage of this is that all of the corresponding architecture-dependent and       +architecture-independent binary packages, for all architectures, are built       +automatically by the build daemons in a controlled and predictable environment        (see :ref:`wanna-build` for more details).       -However, there are several situations where this is not possible.       -       -The first upload of a new source package (see :ref:`newpackage`)       -must include binary packages, so that they can be reviewed by the       -archive administrators before they are added to Debian.       -       -If new binary packages are added to an existing source package, then the       -first upload that lists the new binary packages in ``debian/control``       -must include binary packages, again so that they can be reviewed by the       -archive administrators before they are added to Debian.       -It is preferred for these uploads to be done via the ``experimental``       -suite.       -       -Uploads that will be held for review in other queues, such as packages       -being added to the ``*-backports`` suites, might also require inclusion       -of binary packages.       -       -The build daemons will automatically attempt to build any ``main`` or       -``contrib`` package for which the build-dependencies are available.       -Packages in ``non-free`` and ``non-free-firmware`` will not be built by       -the build daemons unless the package has been marked as suitable for       -auto-building       -(see :ref:`non-free-buildd`).       -       -The build daemons only install build-dependencies from the ``main``       -archive area.       -This means that if a source package has build-dependencies that are       -in the ``contrib``, ``non-free`` or ``non-free-firmware`` archive areas,       -then uploads of that package need to include prebuilt binary packages       -for every architecture that will be supported.       -By definition this can only be the case for source packages that are       -themselves in the ``contrib``, ``non-free`` or ``non-free-firmware``       -archive areas.       -       -Bootstrapping a new architecture, or a new version of a package with       -circular dependencies (such as a self-hosting compiler), will sometimes       -also require an upload that includes binary packages.       +       +To perform a source-only upload, use the ``git debpush`` program. Usually you       +just type ``git debpush``, but sometimes you need to pass additional options.       +You don't need to know in advance when additional options are required,       +because ``git debpush`` will error out in that case. We'll avoid repeating       +the details of when additional options may be required here: see the       +(relatively short and sweet) git-debpush(1) manpage if and when this comes up       +for you. See also https://wiki.debian.org/tag2upload\ .       +       +``git debpush`` covers the vast majority of source-only uploads that Debian       +package maintainers perform. However, there are some cases in which a       +source-only upload is possible but ``git debpush`` cannot be used: when doing       +an NMU (see :ref:`nmu`); when the package is not maintained on Salsa (see       +:ref:`salsa-debian-org`) at all; or when the package uses a Git workflow that       +``git debpush`` doesn't yet know how to handle. A notable example of the       +latter is teams who use monorepos to store multiple source packages in one Git       +repository.       +       +There are also cases where a source-only upload isn't possible at all, because       +you need to upload both source code and binary packages at the same time.       +This happens in the following circumstances in which your upload will be held       +in a queue for manual approval by the archive administrators before heading       +into the Debian Archive proper:       +       +- When uploading a new source package for the very first time (see       + :ref:`newpackage`).       +- When adding new binary packages to an existing source package: the first              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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