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   Laurent Bigonville to All   
   Bug#1124118: base-passwd: Desktop users    
   11 Feb 26 09:50:01   
   
   From: bigon@debian.org   
      
   Le 28/12/25 à 11:50, Cyril Brulebois a écrit :   
   > Hi Kristjan,   
   >   
   > And thanks for the report.   
   >   
   > Kristjan  (2025-12-28):   
   >> After a fresh Debian Testing installation (installer build 20250803+deb13u1)   
   >> with GNOME desktop (task-gnome-desktop), the created user was not added to   
   >> the 'render' group, although the group exists in the system.   
   >>   
   >> What led up to the situation?   
   >> * Standard Debian Testing netinstall with GNOME desktop task selected   
   >> * User created during installation process   
   >>   
   >> What was the outcome?   
   >> * User is member of: cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev users netdev   
   >>    scanner bluetooth lpadmin input   
   >> * The 'render' group exists (GID 992) but is completely empty   
   >> * Vulkan applications fail with errors like:   
   >>    "Gdk-WARNING: Vulkan: Could not open device /dev/dri/renderD128:   
   >>     Invalid argument (VK_ERROR_INCOMPATIBLE_DRIVER)"   
   This is quite weird as with a default installation (using systemd and   
   logind) a local user should have all the necessary rights and everything   
   should work out-of-the-box.   
   >>   
   >> What outcome did you expect?   
   >> * Desktop users should be automatically added to the 'render' group during   
   >>    installation, similar to how they are added to the 'video' group   
   >> * The 'render' group is required for GPU computing and Vulkan applications   
   >>    to access /dev/dri/renderD* devices   
   >> [...]   
   Did you check that your user is properly opening a logind session (with   
   loginctl)?   
   > Over the past few years, the trend has been to shrink the number of   
   > groups set up via the installer, because other components can do that   
   > automatically (and not just for the first user).   
   >   
   > I'm cc-ing Laurent, who contributed such changes.   
   Yes I still think we have to many default groups already   
      
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