From: sthibault@debian.org   
      
   Hello,   
      
   Jochen Sprickerhof, le mer. 11 févr. 2026 10:52:14 +0100, a ecrit:   
   > * Santiago Vila  [2026-02-11 02:41]:   
   > > [ sorry for the late reply ]   
   > >   
   > > On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 04:23:04PM +0200, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote:   
   > >   
   > > > The old lastlog program is gone, so TTBOMK it's become impossible to   
   > > > read the file. With my util-linux+shadow maintainer hats on, I'd   
   > > > think it'd be better to stop creating the file ASAP.   
   > >   
   > > Ok, assuming we will do this for forky, I have a simple question:   
   > >   
   > > Is the Hurd any different from linux regarding this, or they should be   
   > > treated the same?   
   >   
   > I used mmdebstrap to boostrap an up to date Hurd and found that it does not   
   > write to /var/log/lastlog nor to /var/log/btmp but there is a logwtmp() call   
   > here:   
   >   
   > https://sources.debian.org/src/hurd/1:0.9.git20251029-4/daemon   
   /runttys.c?hl=311#L311   
      
   On Debian GNU/Hurd, by default we don't use upstream's runttys, we leave   
   it up to sysvinit.   
      
   Samuel   
      
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