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   Joost van =?utf-8?Q?Baal-Ili=C4=87? to Andrew Bower   
   Bug#1128595: daemontools: consider insta   
   21 Feb 26 20:40:01   
   
   From: joostvb-debian@mdcc.cx   
      
   On Sat, Feb 21, 2026 at 07:29:29PM +0000, Andrew Bower wrote:   
   > On Sat, Feb 21, 2026 at 08:23:25PM +0100, Joost van Baal-Ilić wrote:   
   > > Thanks for your nice bugreport + patch.  In runit's chpst(8) I read:   
   > >   
   > >    If chpst is called as envdir, envuidgid,  pgrphack,  setlock,   
   > >    setuidgid,  or  softlimit,  it  emulates the functionality of   
   > >    these programs from the daemontools package respectively.   
   > >   
   > > Doesn't this mean that daemons which ship daemontools-style run scripts   
   work   
   > > out of the box under runit?  Or am I missing something here?   
   >   
   > They could do with these patches :-)   
   >   
   > The issue is that the runit package cannot ship chpst linked as   
   > /usr/bin/envdir, etc. because that would clash with the daemontools   
   > package. The options are (1) Conflict with daemontools, (2) Use   
   > 'alternatives' to be co-installable.   
   >   
   > I prefer the idea of being co-installable because it helps users and   
   > developers experiment with different toolsets, compare differences in   
   > behaviour, etc. Also there's sometimes not 100% overlap/superset/subset   
   > as appropriate between what different packages can do.   
   >   
   > And the nice thing about using alternatives is that chpst doesn't even   
   > have to set up the symlinks itself, as the alternatives debhelper does   
   > it as part of the alternatives definition.   
   >   
   > The not-so-nice part is that the main package that 'owns' those names   
   > has to rename them, but it works out fine for the user.   
      
   A, makes sense; thanks for this explanation.  I'll wait for Jan Mojžíš's   
   opinion: he's done most of the work on the daemontools packaging.   
      
   Bye,   
      
   Joost   
      
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