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 Message 1201 
 Kees van Eeten to Björn Felten 
 The seven-bit restriction 
 03 Feb 14 19:55:44 
 
Hello Björn!

03 Feb 14 18:59, you wrote to me:

 BF>    Usually known as the ASCII characters higher than 0x7f.

 There are no ASCII characters higher as 0x7f. The 8th bit depended on the
 parity sceme used.

 KvE>> Because there is no consensus on what is to be represented by these
 KvE>> so called high-ASCII.

 BF>    No need to. Every region (outside of Z1 and Z3) -- meaning parts of the
 BF> world using completely different languages -- takes care of it's own. The
 BF> rest can simply either ignore it or take the recent technical developments
 BF> and handle it accordingly.

 Apparently they do.

 BF>>> many years now, and I'm still just Bj?rn in the nodelist there... :(

 KvE>> It is not the magic on how it is to be done.

 BF>    No magic needed. My 15yo Y2K patch can handle it.

 Your patch can only be used on an obsolete OS.

 BF>    Maybe you haven't have time to read my recent comments yet? What I'm
 BF> asking is, why this option is even needed. And if it is, why is the
 BF> default to have it disabled and not vice versa?

 I have read a lot of comments and I have engaged in discussions on this
 subject, maybe not in echo's that you read, but still.

 KvE>> you have written there is no single way to write Bj?rn.

 BF>    But there is! *I* write it the way I want it. In my Region20 file it's
 BF> written the way I want it. That's simply the way *I* want it. Freedom of
 BF> expression, anyone...?

 Well so what is your problem? You have it your way where you decide,
 others have it their way where they decide. I can assure you that the
 nodelist looks very different, where I decide.

 Have you ever looked at the distribution list compiled by Z3, it has been
 totally different for many years.

 KvE>> But I am still curious, what definition of high-ASCII will be used?

 BF>    None at all. If we regard the nodelist as the simple, binary file that
 BF> it was intended to be from the very beginning, we can put whatever
 BF> characters that we want in there.

 It has never been a binary file and during the time I have been in Fidonet,
 it was never intended to be a binary file. It is a structured file and that
 brings limitations. You must always consider that there is 15 old software
 that has to parse the file. Using 2 byte characters could confuse the parser.

Kees

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