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Andrew Leary wrote to James Digriz:
AL> Hello James!
AL> 
AL> 04 Sep 20 14:21, you wrote to Vincent Coen:
AL> 
AL>  JD> Yes, I'm using the same setup. For some reason, though, the start
AL>  JD> script didn't work at first. Of course, after I made my comment, it
AL>  JD> now works. . Something called systemd-sysv-generator 
AL> apparently
AL>  JD> lets the mbsed init scripts operate correctly.
AL> 
AL> It is on the TO DO list to make the install scripts interface directly 
AL> with
AL> systemd systems.
AL> 
AL> I also just recently corrected the Debian and Devuan install scripts to 
AL> include the LSB information so that the BBS can be configured to auto 
AL> start
AL> when the machine boots.
AL> 
AL> Andrew
AL> 
AL> --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
AL>  * Origin: Phoenix BBS * phoenix.bnbbbs.net (1:320/219)
AL> 

I'm really on the point of backing up and punting. Go to Devuan or some other
Linux distro that does not use systemd. Or maybe a BSD. 

Here's what happened: I've been running MBSE integrated with my virtualmin
setup. Works fine, and it even works fine with systemd if you MANUALLY bind
mount /home on /var/www (with appropriate httpd.conf mods, etc.), which has to
be done with CentOS  8 as the virtualmin crew has dropped support for custom
suexec and expects scripts to be run with app handlers through httpd proxies.
Eg. PHP-FPM. Cgi is deprecated now according to the Lords of Web Design. Since 
that means restricting scripts to php unless and until there are suitable
handlers for python, ruby, etc. etc. I want to keep my options open and thus
the bind mount trick. Not the most secure probably and I'm looking at bindfs
for a similar remedy not involving root access, but it'll do for now. 

The problem is that the much-vaunted systemd house of kludges thinks it is
smarter than the system administrator and reorders your fstab entries, 
leading,
 in this case, to an unbootable system because it tries to mount /home before
the root fs. I'm sorry, I'm just fscking tired of this crap. And having to 
wait
2 major releases or more before simple things just work like they're supposed
to. And not having a recognizable Unix system that works the way it's suppoed
to any more. The hell with the dumb 
shit. I refuse to waste my time coming up with yet another unit file just make
some lunatic's quest for world domination not fall flat on its face. 

I'm outta there.

jbdigriz ('scuse the rant. MBSE rocks!)           
                                                                               
                                                                              

    Greetings, James Digriz
    email: jbdigriz@bbs.dragonsweb.org

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