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 Message 23814 
 JOE MACKEY to GEORGE POPE 
 Cars  
 13 Jul 22 08:17:52 
 
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  CP wrote --

> > Nor could an establishment be called a "saloon".  A local place here went
to court about that in the late '80s and won.
> 
> This was your childhood era/location?

  This was here in town.
  AFAIK there no places called a saloon otherwise in WV.  And that place
went of business years ago.

> In my hometown (now officially a city) they had no Sunday shopping laws 

  WV had blue laws until around the '50s or '60s.

> I had no skin in that one -- mattered nought to me.  If the stores were
closed any day, I got what I needed another day.

  Concur.
  At one time liquor and beer laws prohibited selling on Sunday.  I always
thought why not just buy it ahead of time?  Or are you planning on drinking
all those bottles and need more?
  In the late '70s I drove a cab and liquor blue laws were still in effect. 
(Beer was allowed by then).  After a short time I knew where all the
bootleggers were in town from someone wanting booze either after the state
stores*
closed or a Sunday.
  I knew knew where the houses of ill-repute where.
  I have no idea where they are today or if they even exist.
  I also knew many of the hookers, who for the most part were as ugly as a
mud fence.  I always thought their johns must been awfully hard up to go
with one of them.
  I do remember one beautiful woman, like a model, whom I discovered after
a few rides was a call girl, at $100 an hour (over $385 today).  She was a
secretary by day.  Looking at her one would have never suspected.
    (* Until the 1990s the state of WV sold liquor and could only legally
buy from the state.)

> I grew up in the era where if you didn't withdraw enough money by 3pm
Friday, you had no cash to use on Tuesday! & withdrawals had to take place at
the counter!

   Yep.

> > I remember when I sold cars in the mid '70s and those were just "old
> > used cars" on the lot.
> 
> Yup, pre-Classic or is it Vintage now, at 55 years old? Then so am I!

   I wonder what look-alike SUV's and such today will someday be
"classics"?  Darn sight few I imagine.
   I an watching videos of classic cars (started with ones from the 1890ss
and up to 1960 now)*.  They either people and their cars today, commercials
from the era, dealer sales film strips/films (usually how wonderful their
car is compared to others of the l
   I love how cars were all the same size, it was mostly just a trim/engine
difference.  Along with things like standard or automatic, etc.
   I constantly sigh and shake my head when some young person is talking
about a car then rags how it doesn't have this, that and the other that are in
modern cars.  ("This car has no seat belts!"  "This car has no GPS" etc when
talking about a 1950s or '60s 
   One had a some kid in his 20s trying to figure out how to shift a
standard column.
   (*At first it was whatever some YT channel host had.  Then I started
putting them in order, being a bit OCD, with bookmarks for 1950, 1951, etc. 
And I go from make and model starting with the lower priced to the top of the
line, and by model.
   For example, take 1960.
   I will start with Ford, Chevy and Plymouth.  Then up to Mercury, then
Pontiac-Olds-Buick. Then DeoSoto, Dodge, etc.  Up to Cadillac, Lincoln,
Chrysler.  Also Studebaker, AMC, etc.)
   Joe
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