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|    What Canadians think of Harper's 'prorog    |
|    22 Aug 13 21:17:39    |
      XPost: can.politics, bc.politics, ont.politics       XPost: man.politics, sk.politics       From: ConsRCons@govt.cda               . . . aka cold feet.       _________________________________________              REUTERS Published Thursday, Aug. 22, 2013                     Canadians getting more and more unhappy with prorogations: polls                            The Prime Ministerâs plan to prorogue Parliament until October, when       he will return with a new legislative agenda and a Throne Speech, is       relatively routine. But in large part due to his own use of prorogation       in the past, opinion has hardened against the measure.              Prorogation is merely a means to wipe the slate clean in Parliament and       start fresh, something that majority governments often do. But the       recent uses of prorogation has turned the public against the       parliamentary mechanism.              It was used in late 2008 to avoid defeat in a confidence motion that       might have put a Liberal-NDP coalition in power, and again in late 2009       so that, as it was claimed at the time, the government could consult on       the economy and Canadians could focus on the Vancouver Olympics. There       was also some tension in the House related to Afghan detainees. In late       2012, the Ontario Liberals prorogued the legislature and then-premier       Dalton McGuinty resigned, the move seen as having been related to the       gas plant scandal.              This latest prorogation is far more routine, but considering that it       will reschedule the return to work from mid-September to October the       Prime Minister will benefit from being free for a few extra weeks of       grilling in the House of Commons over the spending of a few senators.              In this context, and with the way prorogation has become a dirty word in       politics, it should come as no surprise if the reaction to this       previously unremarkable legislative mechanism is negative.                     Public opinion turned against prorogation when it was used in 2009.       Though its most plainly political deployment was during the coalition       affair, it was not as badly received as subsequent prorogations.              An Ipsos-Reid poll found in December 2008 that 68 per cent of Canadians       preferred ending the parliamentary session rather than the government       accepting defeat at the hands of the coalition. An EKOS poll at the time       showed support for prorogation at 45 per cent, compared to 43 per cent       who opposed the decision (80 per cent of Conservative voters were in       favour). Even a year later, a poll by Harris-Decima found 43 per cent       believing the decision to prorogue was a good one in retrospect, against       38 per cent who disagreed.                     But its use in 2009 seems to have been seen as much more unnecessary.              Only 15 per cent said they would be happy with prorogation in a       Harris-Decima poll of December 2009 before the decision was officially       made, compared with 34 per cent who said they would be unhappy (46 per       cent were indifferent).              When the legislature was prorogued, 58 per cent of Canadians told EKOS       they opposed it while only 31 per cent supported prorogation. Agreement       in the Tory ranks sank as well, with 60 per cent of Conservative voters       in favour. When asked, 63 per cent said that shutting down Parliament       was anti-democratic, and only 38 per cent of Canadians agreed that the       Prime Minister even had the right to seek prorogation in an Ipsos-Reid       poll of February 2010.                     Opinion had turned sharply against the tactic by the time Mr. McGuinty       decided to prorogue last fall. Only 12 per cent of Ontarians approved of       the decision in a Forum poll of October 2012, compared to 73 per cent       who disapproved (for comparison, 30 per cent of Ontarians approved       of Mr. Harperâs prorogation in 2009). Even a plurality of Ontario       Liberal voters disapproved of prorogation, and a clear majority favoured       the premier recalling the legislature.              The atmosphere is perhaps much less heated than it was in these past       cases, so it is unlikely that the degree of approbation will be as high.       But the word has become so toxic that governments everywhere would do       well to use the mechanism wisely. Delaying the start of the session by a       month or more, as Mr. Harper has done, was perhaps not an example of that.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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