XPost: can.politics, bc.politics, ont.politics   
   XPost: tor.general   
   From: gregcarrsober@gmail.com   
      
   On 28/11/2013 10:23 AM, ConɀRConɀ wrote:   
   > Now we know, thanks to Edward Snowden once again, why the Harper   
   > government spent more than $858 MILLION of our tax dollars on the G8/G20   
   > Summit in Toronto in 2010.   
      
   Do you have a cite for that? The story mentions nothing of the sort.   
     A helluva lot of it was for placing listening   
   > bugs and surveillance cameras - on the foreign officials and   
   > representatives of the countries invited.   
   >   
   > And now we have the 'spy palace' being built in Canada to enhance that   
   > kind of activity - when they're not spying on you and me.   
   >   
   > This government has to go - sooner, rather than later. We've become   
   > accessories to the rightwing policies of George W Bush and his Patriot Act.   
   > Get rid of Harper & Co. We need to get back to being a civil country   
   > spending money on its people - not on rightwing espionage activities.   
   > _______________________________   
   > Reuters - Thursday, November 28, 2013   
   >   
   >   
   > U.S. spied during 2010 G20 summit in Toronto: Snowden leak   
   >   
   >   
   > OTTAWA - OTTAWA - Canada allowed the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA)   
   > to conduct widespread surveillance during the 2010 Group of 20 summit in   
   > Toronto, according to a media report that cited documents from former   
   > NSA contractor Edward Snowden.   
   >   
   > The report by the Canadian Broadcasting Corp is the latest potential   
   > embarrassment for the NSA as a result of Snowden's leaks, although it   
   > remains unclear precisely what information the agency was looking for   
   > during the summit.   
   >   
   > Snowden has already revealed the agency spied on close allies such as   
   > Germany and Brazil, prompting heated diplomatic spats with Washington.   
   >   
   > The CBC report, first aired late on Wednesday, cited briefing notes it   
   > said showed the United States turned its Ottawa embassy into a security   
   > command post during a six-day spying operation by the top-secret U.S.   
   > agency as President Barack Obama and other world leaders met that June.   
   >   
   > Reuters has not seen the documents and cannot verify their authenticity.   
   > One of the bylines on the CBC report was Glenn Greenwald, the U.S.   
   > journalist who has worked with Snowden on several other NSA stories.   
   >   
   > CBC said the operation was no secret to Canadian authorities and it   
   > quoted an NSA briefing note describing the operation as "closely   
   > coordinated with the Canadian partner".   
   >   
   > The Canadian equivalent of the NSA is the Communications Security   
   > Establishment Canada, or CSEC.   
   >   
   > U.S. authorities declined to comment specifically on the report.   
   >   
   > "As a matter of policy we have made clear that the United States gathers   
   > foreign intelligence of the type gathered by all nations," said Caitlin   
   > Hayden, spokeswoman for the White House National Security Council.   
   >   
   > CBC said the documents did not reveal the targets of the NSA operation,   
   > but described part of the U.S. eavesdropping agency's mandate at the   
   > Toronto summit as "providing support to policymakers".   
   >   
   > A spokesman for Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper declined to   
   > comment on the allegations in the report, but said security   
   > organizations were subject to independent oversight.   
   >   
   > CSEC, which has a very low public profile, employs about 2,000 people.   
   > It is part of the so-called Five Eyes intelligence-sharing network that   
   > also includes the United States, Britain, New Zealand and Australia.   
   >   
   > Last month, Brazil angrily demanded an explanation for media reports   
   > which said CSEC agents had targeted its mines and energy industry.   
   >   
   > CSEC head John Forster, pressed about the CBC report at a meeting of the   
   > House of Commons defense committee, declined to comment on the specifics   
   > of Canada's intelligence operations, but appeared to play down the idea   
   > his agency had played an active role during the G20 summit.   
   >   
   > "Under law, CSEC cannot target Canadians anywhere in the world or anyone   
   > in Canada, including visitors. I cannot ask my international partners to   
   > do anything that I am not allowed by law to do," he told legislators on   
   > Thursday.   
   >   
   > Forster's comments left open the possibility that the NSA had requested   
   > help from CSEC.   
   >   
   > Canada's Defense Ministry, which has overall responsibility for CSEC,   
   > says it needs C$461 million ($435 million) to run CSEC in 2013/14, up   
   > from C$439 million in 2012/13.   
   >   
   > Forster said CSEC needed an extra C$44 million over five years to   
   > upgrade a top-secret communications network, adding there was "no direct   
   > relationship" between that request and the agency's activities in   
   > Brazil. He did not give more details.   
   >   
   > The British Columbia Civil Liberties Association and the OpenMedia.ca   
   > lobby group announced a lawsuit against CSEC last month, alleging that   
   > activities such as spying in Brazil were illegal and unconstitutional.   
   >   
   > OpenMedia.ca executive director Steve Anderson said Canadians watching   
   > the CBC report would "be shocked to discover just how secretive,   
   > expensive, and out-of-control our government's spying activities are".   
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   > http://www.vancouverobserver.com/politics/commentary/spying-yo   
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